Members WRGKMC Posted November 3, 2014 Members Share Posted November 3, 2014 Well put Tip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members M1K3999 Posted November 5, 2014 Members Share Posted November 5, 2014 AMP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members HKSblade2 Posted November 5, 2014 Members Share Posted November 5, 2014 Amp for me as well. Amp defines what I want to hear and experience. Guitar is all about the physical control and playability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dick wiggins Posted November 8, 2014 Members Share Posted November 8, 2014 The most important is the PLAYER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jonf Posted November 9, 2014 Members Share Posted November 9, 2014 Another vote for the amp. However, I'm always amazed though how a really talented player can make almost anything sound great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vince Marrone Posted November 11, 2014 Members Share Posted November 11, 2014 The amp is at least 50% of your electronic tone. Take your guitar and play through several amps and notice just how the sound changes. Funny enough, I tend to sound similar even when I play on different guitars. Probably because we tend to adjust the guitar to the sound in our heads, but the amp really has it's own character. Not that guitars don't have different personalities, but the sound in the guitar comes mostly from your hands and attack/muting. That's why I own more amps than guitars. Different sizes and power ratings for different gigs. Sometimes you need a solid state for the acoustic and a few different tube amps for jazz, blues and rock and funk gigs! So many great amps are available today.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members gardo Posted November 12, 2014 Members Share Posted November 12, 2014 AMP matters more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Timfever Posted November 14, 2014 Members Share Posted November 14, 2014 With my old set up (the trashy ass Crate G600...), a srat and an SG, my crazy teeny bopper ass popped about every sound from Sultans of Swing, Bold as Love, Band offer Gypsies, Black Sabbath I-4, and Van Halen I etc...with a handful of good pedals (oh man that old Zoom Driver with the built in noise gate was bad ass), some imagination, and good old fashioned TEENAGE level ENTHUSIASM... Don't EVER forget the last factor! I was just reading through all the posts and mine and couldnt help but think that too many of us are jaded -- maybe SPOILED? -- by the nice gear we've accumulated (in many case, HOARDED!). I'm thinking back to when I had to work my ass off and practically drop LSD (nice a good idea...kiddies...!) to get all the sounds I wanted to make with less, and, call me crazy, I'm getting a little misty eyed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members waltermitty Posted November 14, 2014 Members Share Posted November 14, 2014 Hello all, long time reader and first post! I've been an acoustic player for a while now, just recently gotten into electric about 3 years ago. I have been experimenting with rig set ups since day one. Started with an Epi Les Paul Ultra 3 and a Fender Mustang V stack. Personally I did not like the sound of either when I got them into a band setting. Moved on to a mim tele standard and a new Deluxe Reverb RI with some pedals. It was the most shrill sound I have ever heard. I did every possible configuration (minus pickup swapping) and it did not help at all. I then bought a new American Standard Strat and a Reason Bambino Grande 1x12. It sound good, not great, but good. I had a hell of a tone that sounded like nothing I could try and mimic with a SS amp. The problem was that I was in a cover band at the time and I could not get an awesome sounding tone for any of the songs we played. The overdrive (whether it was natural or pedal driven) was very muddy (in a nice way), the cleans were not at all bright (I was still learning about tube amps), and the only OD pedal that sounded awesome with it was the OCD. Another problem was that while my Tele's sounded good through it, my Strat sounded "meh". I then picked up the J Mascics Jazzmaster (Squier) and fell in love with it. It really is a hell of a guitar at $400. I had a local pickup builder (EastGrove) make me some custom pickups for it and it is now my go-to guitar. It plays better than my Nash T-63, American strat, other Tele's, etc. I have since then bought, sold, and traded gear and have finally found some satisfying sounds. Picked up a Goodsell custom 33 head with the matching 2x12 cab that is badass. I match it with any of my guitars and I am never disappointed. Sounds great with the OCD pedal and sounds amazing with a Zendrive pedal. So I guess what I am getting at is that I have been through a handful of amps, and a few guitars. My cheapest guitar sounds amazing through a well-designed and pricier amp than it did through a Fender DRRI. I will always choose a better amp over a "better" guitar. I find it to be more productive, and cost-effective, to buy a cheaper guitar and swap pickups to help achieve the tone you are searching for. I don't feel as guilty if I spend $200 on pickups to try out, as opposed to a $1200 amp to try out. I also don't have the cash flow for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ILoveMyGuitar Posted November 17, 2014 Members Share Posted November 17, 2014 You can get acceptable tones with great amp/crappy guitar with some tweaking but you can not get great tones with great guitar/crappy amp (think a solid state transistor Crate from the 80's or something like that). The ideal is to have everything great (great guitar player, great amp, great guitar) but between great amp/crappy guitar and great guitar/crappy amp great amp/crappy guitar wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JureGolobic Posted December 4, 2014 Members Share Posted December 4, 2014 I would definitely go with a good guitar! The way guitar feels and plays in my hands is really important to me. If you have a good guitar you'll enjoy playing more ( i think) and will more like get a better tone and feel out of your amp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Joseph Smith Posted December 5, 2014 Members Share Posted December 5, 2014 Neither. Pups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members WRGKMC Posted December 5, 2014 Members Share Posted December 5, 2014 The pickups are really part of the amp chain not the guitar. They just happen to be permanently mounted in the guitar now. That wasn't always the case when guitars were first electrified. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DonK Posted December 6, 2014 Members Share Posted December 6, 2014 The player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Just Mike Posted December 6, 2014 Members Share Posted December 6, 2014 Guitar. This is coming from a guy who builds amps for a living. Amp. This is coming from a guy who builds amps for a hobby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Idunno Posted December 6, 2014 Members Share Posted December 6, 2014 The player kinda factors out on top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members HoobaStunk Posted December 7, 2014 Members Share Posted December 7, 2014 50-50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sonoragazzo Posted December 24, 2014 Members Share Posted December 24, 2014 Sorry to say that everything matters my friend; Player being the most important part it follows, the guitar, guitar pups, strings, amp, tubes, guitar cables, guitar FXs, speaker cabinets, etc... At the end it all depends on how good you want to be heard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members njordan79 Posted December 24, 2014 Members Share Posted December 24, 2014 I'm going to answer the question as asked, instead of hipstering my way out of it with a cop out answer about the player mattering more (that was in the OP anyway). I'm blessed to own a wonderful old LP Custom. This thing sings in your hands. Through my JCM900 (pre-marriage), it sounded beautiful. My Epiphone Special II sounded pretty decent. I sold the JCM, bought a Fender Blues Jr., and had similar results (If you get one of these, you also want a telecaster, or at least I did). I sold the Blues Jr, since I wasn't playing in public anymore, and picked up a cheap modeling amp in a pawn shop for $100. Now, my LP Custom sounds pretty unremarkable. Can't wait to get into my new house and overcorrect by buying a JVM410. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DocD3F4U17 Posted January 27, 2015 Members Share Posted January 27, 2015 the egg had to come before the chiken perhaps adding a mic to the amp would generate some power Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members groovezilla Posted January 29, 2015 Members Share Posted January 29, 2015 There two different, and required parts of the whole instrument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members realtree71 Posted January 30, 2015 Members Share Posted January 30, 2015 A {censored}ty guitar can sound good through a great amp....... Nothing sounds good through a crap amp Amp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil O'Keefe Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 I have to agree with those who said that both are important. Electric guitar is nothing without an amp, and an amp is nothing without a instrument to plug into it. They work together as a system, and the system is only as good as its weakest component. Plug in a cheap intermittent cable and see how bad both guitar and amp suddenly sound... Of course, a truly great player can coax beautiful music out of equipment that would appear to be rather junky, and that mere mortals would have a hard time getting a passable sound out of... David Lindley comes to mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil O'Keefe Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 100% right on the money IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members itspat7285 Posted February 8, 2015 Members Share Posted February 8, 2015 I'll take any strat style guitar and any 60's tube amp. Those are my only preferences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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