Members Reauchambeau Posted August 24, 2011 Members Share Posted August 24, 2011 They absolutely destroy other lunchbox amps in terms of features and build quality. Thats an American-made amplifier made with top quality parts. Every other lunchbox amp on the market is made in China. Traynor, made in Canada, better than the US Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Crxsh Posted August 24, 2011 Members Share Posted August 24, 2011 Crxsh is going to get this for Church. Ten Watts and Underoath toans? Dream amp. Kudos, sir. I lol'd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NITEFLY182 Posted August 24, 2011 Members Share Posted August 24, 2011 Traynor, made in Canada, better than the US Doubtful. Not because of any nationalistic pride issue but because Mesa makes bulletproof amps in general. I haven't seen a modern Traynor amplifier I would put on the same level as a Mesa in terms of build quality or reliability. Mesas are also extremely servicable which can make a huge difference in repair bills if you do have an issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Reauchambeau Posted August 24, 2011 Members Share Posted August 24, 2011 Doubtful. Not because of any nationalistic pride issue but because Mesa makes bulletproof amps in general. I haven't seen a modern Traynor amplifier I would put on the same level as a Mesa in terms of build quality or reliability. Mesas are also extremely servicable which can make a huge difference in repair bills if you do have an issue. I was kidding about the Canada better thing. check out the YGM-3, Mesa doesn't have any that will touch that build wise. and I highly doubt the mini Mesa is better built than the Darkhorse/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Reauchambeau Posted August 24, 2011 Members Share Posted August 24, 2011 Very cool. Probably going to be a grand or more though. So, no thanks. Also Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Crxsh Posted August 24, 2011 Members Share Posted August 24, 2011 We're talking about Mesa. Not Vox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Aaron SS Posted August 24, 2011 Members Share Posted August 24, 2011 Yep...VERY interested. Mesa's are seriously bulletproof Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members orourke Posted August 24, 2011 Members Share Posted August 24, 2011 Very cool. Probably going to be a grand or more though. So, no thanks. Also Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NITEFLY182 Posted August 24, 2011 Members Share Posted August 24, 2011 I was kidding about the Canada better thing. check out the YGM-3, Mesa doesn't have any that will touch that build wise. and I highly doubt the mini Mesa is better built than the Darkhorse/ Are you really comparing an eyelet board reissue of a 70s bassman copy with a Mesa amplifier? Of course mesa doesn't have anything like that. They have NEVER built ampifiers with that construction method because it isn't feasible for a company of their size or for products as complex as the ones they make. Even the simplest Mesa ever made is an order of magnitude more complex to build than a TGM3 would be. The Darkhorse uses 100% board mounted components it seems so if you break off a pot shaft its going to be a lot more of a hassle to repair. Mesa uses flying leads for their pots so replacing one is a 10-minute task. Here are photos or the Darkhorse and the Mesa. They really aren't comparable. But then again they really shouldn't be. The Mesa is more than twice the price of the Traynor and has significantly more features and options. Traynor Mesa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Aaron SS Posted August 24, 2011 Members Share Posted August 24, 2011 Dropping the knowledge bomb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Operator Posted August 24, 2011 Members Share Posted August 24, 2011 Could someone please explain their concerns with powering a 25w amp with two EL84's. There seems to be a bit of incredulity about it but no one is explaining why. Yeah I don't get it either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NITEFLY182 Posted August 24, 2011 Members Share Posted August 24, 2011 Normally a 25-30 watt EL84 amplifier would use a quartet of power tubes rather than a pair. However, you can get 100 watts out of a pair of EL34s in the right configuration and most companies usually only wring out 45-50 watts. Its just a matter of how you make it work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Loobs Posted August 24, 2011 Members Share Posted August 24, 2011 Shame it looks like Fred Durst's wet dream Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members t-rey Posted August 24, 2011 Members Share Posted August 24, 2011 This is good news indeed. I have come around to the fact that most of the high gain tones I like are coming from Rectos. I may have to start saving my pennies... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Aaron SS Posted August 24, 2011 Members Share Posted August 24, 2011 Tubescreamer > Recto = Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Parah Salin Posted August 24, 2011 Members Share Posted August 24, 2011 That's a really good price. I don't like the mini slant cab though. Makes the whole mini-head/mini-cab look gimmicky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members t-rey Posted August 24, 2011 Members Share Posted August 24, 2011 Tubescreamer > Recto = Indeed. And alot of the sludgey stonery southern metal I like is recto as well. I may be able to pick one up and sell the rest of my {censored} if it can do that, boosted brootz, and has a decent clean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NITEFLY182 Posted August 24, 2011 Members Share Posted August 24, 2011 That's a really good price. I don't like the mini slant cab though. Makes the whole mini-head/mini-cab look gimmicky. To some extent lunchbox amps are really a gimmick on the market now so Mesa is just giving people what they want - a tiny mesa rectifier half stack. I bet a full stack of mini 4x12s would be badass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Aaron SS Posted August 24, 2011 Members Share Posted August 24, 2011 The price is not only great but you factor in the build quality (as nitefly already pointed out) and the amount of features and this seems like it'll be a killer amp at a great price. I'm a tiny bit skeptical of the power tube choice as Nick mentioned but it's a Mesa and thus it will keep it's resale value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Loobs Posted August 24, 2011 Members Share Posted August 24, 2011 I don't see what's gimmicky about lunchbox amps. Seems very practical to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Crxsh Posted August 24, 2011 Members Share Posted August 24, 2011 I'm a tiny bit skeptical of the power tube choice as Nick mentioned but it's a Mesa and thus it will keep it's resale value. There's just something about a 6L6-driven Recto. So awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NITEFLY182 Posted August 24, 2011 Members Share Posted August 24, 2011 Most of the Rectifier sound comes from the preamp. As long as they can provide clean linear power from the output section it should sound close to its bigger siblings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members King Rat Posted August 24, 2011 Members Share Posted August 24, 2011 Defs something i'd be looking into in the future. nice stuff mesa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jcksn1234 Posted August 24, 2011 Members Share Posted August 24, 2011 ahh i would rather get the carvin v3m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SnorkelMonkey Posted August 24, 2011 Members Share Posted August 24, 2011 Could someone please explain their concerns with powering a 25w amp with two EL84's. There seems to be a bit of incredulity about it but no one is explaining why. With the conventional approach you can push a pair of EL84's to get 25W out of them (really their absolute limit before failure) but they wont last very long with your typical off the shelf 84 tubes. Maybe they got a factory to up the specs a little? Very possible. But like a lot of their modern offerings they seem to go with pushing everything to the absolute limit to failure at a loss of touch sensitivity, smooth harmonic distortion, and tube life/amp life, so I wouldn't put it past them to either ride a tube set like this to short death or up the wattage on paper for a better chance at marketing (say 22 watts now becomes 25 watts etc.). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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