Members Aaron SS Posted August 24, 2011 Members Share Posted August 24, 2011 ahh i would rather get the carvin v3m I've owned a V3 twice and regretted it both times. Unless they did a total overhaul to the foundation of the amp I couldn't see why anyone would pick it over the Mesa offering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jcksn1234 Posted August 24, 2011 Members Share Posted August 24, 2011 I've owned a V3 twice and regretted it both times.Unless they did a total overhaul to the foundation of the amp I couldn't see why anyone would pick it over the Mesa offering. i think it is still 3 channels, but has 4 el84 power tubes. smaller, 50/25/7 watts, and reverb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Aaron SS Posted August 24, 2011 Members Share Posted August 24, 2011 Cool features but to me the fundamental tone just wasn't up to par IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Reauchambeau Posted August 24, 2011 Members Share Posted August 24, 2011 We're talking about Mesa. Not Vox. well your post didn't mention Mesa, I thought you were talking about tubes in general. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Let It Burn... Posted August 24, 2011 Members Share Posted August 24, 2011 Probably Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jcksn1234 Posted August 24, 2011 Members Share Posted August 24, 2011 Cool features but to me the fundamental tone just wasn't up to par IMO yeah everyone has different taste. i love my v3, but it has so many bells and whistles to change the tone that it is hard to dial in sometimes. i never really liked the dual recto either, but i did enjoy the transatlantic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JorisBlack Posted August 24, 2011 Members Share Posted August 24, 2011 Normally a 25-30 watt EL84 amplifier would use a quartet of power tubes rather than a pair. However, you can get 100 watts out of a pair of EL34s in the right configuration and most companies usually only wring out 45-50 watts. Its just a matter of how you make it work. Hmm, I do remember my old Peavey Classic 50 using 4 EL84 tubes, and that's a 50 watt amp...And I actually can't think of a 25-watt amp that use 4 EL84's. Can you give an example? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Crxsh Posted August 24, 2011 Members Share Posted August 24, 2011 well your post didn't mention Mesa, I thought you were talking about tubes in general. Nevermind what this entire thread has been about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Aaron SS Posted August 24, 2011 Members Share Posted August 24, 2011 If I get one I'd have to make a wood headshell, the metals cool and all but a legit headshell would look much better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NITEFLY182 Posted August 24, 2011 Members Share Posted August 24, 2011 Hmm, I do remember my old Peavey Classic 50 using 4 EL84 tubes, and that's a 50 watt amp...And I actually can't think of a 25-watt amp that use 4 EL84's. Can you give an example? Ever heard of an AC30? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Reauchambeau Posted August 24, 2011 Members Share Posted August 24, 2011 Nevermind what this entire thread has been about. my bad for not assuming you were being specific to the topic, I just read is a statement about tubes in general, I deserved the I agree, how could an El-84 compare to a 6L6 or an EL-34, the bigger the bottle the bigger the tone, right? I still like to hear it though because EL-84 amps never seem lacking except for headroom obviously, but in this case headroom isn't what Mesa's going for it seems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Reauchambeau Posted August 24, 2011 Members Share Posted August 24, 2011 Ever heard of an AC30? dude, haven't you heard? this thread isn't about Vox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Echo))) Posted August 24, 2011 Members Share Posted August 24, 2011 Hmm, I do remember my old Peavey Classic 50 using 4 EL84 tubes, and that's a 50 watt amp...And I actually can't think of a 25-watt amp that use 4 EL84's. Can you give an example? Fine, its 30w not 25w, but the Orange Thunder 30 runs four el84's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NITEFLY182 Posted August 24, 2011 Members Share Posted August 24, 2011 Stated output ratings for most amplifiers are often inaccurate. The fluctuate with bias and are more often marketing tools than facts. Generally they are overstated because its easier to market a "100-watt head" than an 86-watt head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Reauchambeau Posted August 24, 2011 Members Share Posted August 24, 2011 Fine, its 30w not 25w, but the Orange Thunder 30 runs four el84's dude, this thread is about Mesa, not Orange Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JorisBlack Posted August 24, 2011 Members Share Posted August 24, 2011 Fine, its 30w not 25w, but the Orange Thunder 30 runs four el84's Alright, I learned something today. I wonder how much this affects the sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Let It Burn... Posted August 24, 2011 Members Share Posted August 24, 2011 Ever heard of an AC30? that's 30! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SnorkelMonkey Posted August 24, 2011 Members Share Posted August 24, 2011 Also what's 25 Watts? Notice it doesn't say 25 Watts RMS. 25W RMS not if your life depended on it. With the MESA gain I bet it would be lucky to put out 6-8 clean watts. I predict a lot of unfavorable pedal reviews from Mini 25 owners in the near future. Maybe that's why Crxsh flips so many pedals? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tattoedsailor Posted August 24, 2011 Members Share Posted August 24, 2011 They absolutely destroy other lunchbox amps in terms of features and build quality. Thats an American-made amplifier made with top quality parts. Every other lunchbox amp on the market is made in China. :thu:Competely agree.. I love my Transatlantic. In terms of build quality its defiantly one best I've owned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NITEFLY182 Posted August 24, 2011 Members Share Posted August 24, 2011 30 watts, but okay, I did overlook that one. Probably because this thread isn't about Vox. Sigh. Put an AC30 on a scope and let me know how much it puts out. 30 watts/25 watts/etc... is all marketing. Its what the brochure says but I guarantee you if you do the math thats not what's hitting the speaker jack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members echodeluxe Posted August 24, 2011 Members Share Posted August 24, 2011 lol, tubes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JorisBlack Posted August 24, 2011 Members Share Posted August 24, 2011 Sigh. Put an AC30 on a scope and let me know how much it puts out. 30 watts/25 watts/etc... is all marketing. Its what the brochure says but I guarantee you if you do the math thats not what's hitting the speaker jack. Yeah, I agree. And even if one amp is 25 watts and the other one 30 watts, I probably couldn't tell the difference... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Zappa74 Posted August 24, 2011 Members Share Posted August 24, 2011 Crxsh is going to get this for Church.Ten Watts and Underoath toans? Dream amp. This is amusing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members iamthearm Posted August 24, 2011 Members Share Posted August 24, 2011 I LIKE THAT IT HAS A METAL PLATE THAT MAKES IT LOOK LIKE AN AWESOME TRUCK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Reauchambeau Posted August 24, 2011 Members Share Posted August 24, 2011 I LIKE THAT IT HAS A METAL PLATE THAT MAKES IT LOOK LIKE AN AWESOME TRUCK lol, I never understood that goofy checker plate they've always used. do they think people are going to be walking on them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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