Members Infi-del Posted August 1, 2012 Members Share Posted August 1, 2012 So I'm getting into delays. Seems you can add a lot of movement and depth to your sound with them. So far the ones that have impressed me the most are the Strymon Timeline, the Eventide Timefactor, and the TC Electronic Alter Ego. Tell me some things I need to know about delays and how to best make use of them. Also... where do you put yours in your signal chain? What are some cool effects combos with delays? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mhuxtable Posted August 1, 2012 Members Share Posted August 1, 2012 Timeline and Timefactor are monsters. They have so many different delays and parameters that they may be a bit daunting for someone just getting into it. The alter ego might be easier to wrap your head around...delays can be used for all sorts of things. Thickening leads/chords, slapback echo, rhythmic patterns, ambient washes. Usually they go near the end of a signal chain, but that's not to say you can't put it anywhere else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members renula Posted August 1, 2012 Members Share Posted August 1, 2012 cheap and good: line 6 echo park, Boss dd-7, Ibanez de-7, and tc flashback or Alter Ego. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ToonHollow Posted August 1, 2012 Members Share Posted August 1, 2012 Typically end of the chain, preferably before a reverb pedal and in an effects loop, though still sounds good in front of an amp. As for the pedal itself, it really depends on your application. Heavy delay user who needs tons of adjustable options and presets? TimeFactor or Timeline. If you don't need that many options, there are more suitable delays like a trusty DD-7, Memory Boy, DE-7, Ibanez AD-9, Carbon Copy, etc. One of my favorite effects combinations is fuzz with a slow phaser and modulated delay. Nice and murky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members thom Posted August 1, 2012 Members Share Posted August 1, 2012 cheap and good: line 6 echo park, Boss dd-7, Ibanez de-7, and tc flashback or Alter Ego. I'd also go with one of these. The DD-7 isn't too cheap though impo, but it's a lot of pedal in a small package, and it shoudn't be tooooo pricey used. Carbon Copy: Really dark repeats, a requierd taste. Ibanez AD-9: Real nice, but for that kind of money you might as well look at booteek alternatives that do longer delay times. I'm personally still happy with my DL-4. It does the job, and it's dirt cheap if you look at the competition. It might not be the hippest latest newest thing out there, but dispite the small flaws (vol drop, supposedly unreliable switches,...), it's a great affordable looper and delay modeler in one. Also still love my DD-5, the reverse mode alone is worth keeping it forever impo. As for placement: Depends on your amp, and how its fx loop sounds. Dirty delay can sound great, and delay'd dirt too...But if you want a nice dirty tone that doesn't sound messy, and still want the repeats to cut through like they should...A good fx loop can do wonders impo, though most people here don't seem to share that opinion, so... If money's not a problem, and you want the whole shabang, but aren't too crazy about menu's and displays....: Empress Superdelay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Lanefair Posted August 1, 2012 Members Share Posted August 1, 2012 I have to have presets with my delays now. I use my timefactor for a number of sounds: slight rhythmic delay (for choruses/doubling up), solo (with the level boosted a bit) quarter note, dotted eights, reverb, slapback, chorus, chorus delay, man I love the Timefactor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members The Villano Dude Posted August 2, 2012 Members Share Posted August 2, 2012 Timefactor is awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members six acre lake Posted August 2, 2012 Members Share Posted August 2, 2012 Even though I am a huge fan of my new Moog Analog Delay, I am usually a fan of the less is more approach when it comes to delay. Time, mix, and feedback is all I really need although a nice tap tempo is pretty useful at times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Zappa74 Posted August 2, 2012 Members Share Posted August 2, 2012 catalinbread montavillian is my fave super simple with a useful tone cut. {censored} just sounds good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members blueboxer Posted August 2, 2012 Members Share Posted August 2, 2012 DD-20, any DD (3, 5, 6, 7), Guyatone MD-3, EHX Memory Boy, EHX Memory Man (Vintage or otherwise), AD4096, Carbon Copy, ETC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Christmas Ape Posted August 2, 2012 Members Share Posted August 2, 2012 Cheapest and still pretty good - Rogue Analog Delay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bmoncbus Posted August 2, 2012 Members Share Posted August 2, 2012 Depends on your usage and what sounds are important to you. Do you want that cold digital repeating delay (TF wins here), analog sounds (an actual analog delay wins here), tape sounds (El Cap wins, TL second)? Do you need to keep in time with your DAW and would like BPM display? Is stereo a must? The Empress Vintage Modified Super Delay should be added to your list if your answer is no to these two questions. The TL and El Cap still have high used prices relative to their new prices, but everything else can be had much cheaper used. Check the SPAM thread at the top of this forum or make your way over to TGP's emporium section (note: I'm just recommending the Emporium section - don't go anywhere else on that site). :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Crxsh Posted August 2, 2012 Members Share Posted August 2, 2012 Options and opinions on this subject are all over the place. Here are some thoughts on the ones I've had... Ibanez DE7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members larry50 Posted August 2, 2012 Members Share Posted August 2, 2012 I love this one. Lottsa options, sounds great, not too expensive (sorry for the big pic). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members aude Posted August 2, 2012 Members Share Posted August 2, 2012 Very good info Crxsh. I say the Electro Harmonix Deluxe Memory is legendary and it's worth giving it a try for an analog delay. The only downside is it takes a whole lot of space on your pedal board. TC Electronic Flashback is really good too for a small stompbox with different delay types. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members triviani Posted August 2, 2012 Members Share Posted August 2, 2012 Yap, great post Crxsh! My recommendation is the Hardwire Dl8 as well, it's a fantastic unit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members macadood Posted August 2, 2012 Members Share Posted August 2, 2012 Echolution hands down. best delay. no bell and whistles, only everything you need. plus doubles as an excellent chorus and tremolo. has tap tempo, and is essentially a dual delay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members crisis Posted August 2, 2012 Members Share Posted August 2, 2012 I am really only starting to use delay but have had a TC Nova Delay and am now using a TC Nova System delay. As far as Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 4nd3h Posted August 2, 2012 Members Share Posted August 2, 2012 Timeline was my first delay pedal (having had the PODHD500 previously) and I found it really intuitive and easy to use. I consider myself moderately savvy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members The Villano Dude Posted August 2, 2012 Members Share Posted August 2, 2012 Echolution hands down. best delay. no bell and whistles, only everything you need. plus doubles as an excellent chorus and tremolo. has tap tempo, and is essentially a dual delay OOh. Me wants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Infi-del Posted August 6, 2012 Author Members Share Posted August 6, 2012 Well I decided to give the TC Electronic Alter Ego a go. Figured it has some nice delays plus the Echorec and DMM settings even if not 100% accurate will give me some interesting versatility. Paired with the Eventide Space I just got... I should be able to create to interesting movement and depth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members thom Posted August 6, 2012 Members Share Posted August 6, 2012 Curious about the alter ego myself, but I'm currently flooded in delay peds and not at all shopping for another one. At that price point, I would've personally gone with the hardwire, but mainly because of the looper mode. So if you don't need that, good for you, have fun with the sweet delay/verb combo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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