Members six acre lake Posted September 11, 2012 Members Share Posted September 11, 2012 http://hydraheadlines.blogspot.com/2012/09/the-imminent-demise-of-hydra-head.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members d4rk0 Posted September 11, 2012 Members Share Posted September 11, 2012 {censored} you technology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members onyxrhino Posted September 11, 2012 Members Share Posted September 11, 2012 {censored} you technology. yeah, running a small independent record label used to be such a solid moneymaking endeavor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ItchyFingers Posted September 11, 2012 Members Share Posted September 11, 2012 Wait, wait. Some obscure label failed? Say it isn't so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Hupia Posted September 11, 2012 Members Share Posted September 11, 2012 should've signed Whores Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil O'Keefe Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 yeah, running a small independent record label used to be such a solid moneymaking endeavor You had a better shot at it back in the early 90s (when Hydra Head was founded) before downloading became such a major issue and before the record industry as a whole took a colossal dump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members falseswipe Posted September 11, 2012 Members Share Posted September 11, 2012 Damn. I really hope to pick up a copy of Here Come The Waterworks before they stop pressing vinyl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members live-I-evil Posted September 11, 2012 Members Share Posted September 11, 2012 Damn, that's the first thread I've opened since the forum {censored} the bed and it's terrible news. Wait, wait. Some obscure label failed? Say it isn't so. Hydra Head isn't really that obscure and they've out out a ton of fantastic records but yes, I'm sure it couldn't have been easy to make the books balance these past few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members onyxrhino Posted September 11, 2012 Members Share Posted September 11, 2012 You had a better shot at it back in the early 90s (when Hydra Head was founded) before downloading became such a major issue and before the record industry as a whole took a colossal dump. Really? Before the internet/free web marketing/cheap recording tools/illegal downloads came into being, what independent labels were out there releasing this kind of music and succeeding at it for over 20 years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Reaganomics! Posted September 11, 2012 Members Share Posted September 11, 2012 Touch and Go? SST? Not as extreme examples, but your little sister and her friends probably aren't listening to Don Cab or St. Vitus either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members onyxrhino Posted September 11, 2012 Members Share Posted September 11, 2012 Touch and Go? SST? Not as extreme examples, but your little sister and her friends probably aren't listening to Don Cab or St. Vitus either. yeah, I'll give you Touch and Go as being somewhat similar. SST was releasing stuff with far more popular appeal and promoting bands with much bigger followings. Not even apples and oranges there. And even they pretty much ceased most of their business by the mid-90s (which was, oddly enough, after approximately 20 years in business and before the advent of file sharing). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members martha_KH Posted September 11, 2012 Members Share Posted September 11, 2012 This really sucks. They have put out some great stuff over the years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members christianatl Posted September 11, 2012 Members Share Posted September 11, 2012 Good. Aaron is a dick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members christianatl Posted September 11, 2012 Members Share Posted September 11, 2012 should've signed Whores Thanks for the lovins, but I'm glad they didn't. Brutal Panda is the shiz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ItchyFingers Posted September 11, 2012 Members Share Posted September 11, 2012 Hydra Head isn't really that obscure and they've out out a ton of fantastic records but yes, I'm sure it couldn't have been easy to make the books balance these past few years. "The label grew to accommodate local bands such as Roswell, Corrin, Piebald and Converge". Only obscure to me apparently, but I'm old as dirt and have never really been into metal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil O'Keefe Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 Really? Before the internet/free web marketing/cheap recording tools/illegal downloads came into being, what independent labels were out there releasing this kind of music and succeeding at it for over 20 years? I was working at one back then, and it wasn't inexpensive gear we were using - we were using 2" 24 track machines, large format consoles - pretty much the same as everyone else was back then. You set (or were given) a budget, you did your pre-production, rented studio time, and went in and made the record. Indie labels weren't all making a killing - most failed, same as always... but that doesn't mean they didn't exist. Heck, you can go back to the 1950s and even earlier and find indie labels... some of which did very well. Atlantic for example. Want more? How about Chrysalis, IRS, Matador, Tooth & Nail, Epitaph. Rough Trade, etc. etc. Yes, marketing was different, and distribution was different - you had to use an actual distributor who could get you into stores, and you had to advertise on the radio and in print, and have a promotion department - again, just like any other label. You had some challenges, but you also had a lot less "noise" to contend with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members christianatl Posted September 11, 2012 Members Share Posted September 11, 2012 You can kiss that {censored} goodbye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BR4D Posted September 11, 2012 Members Share Posted September 11, 2012 Sad news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members onyxrhino Posted September 11, 2012 Members Share Posted September 11, 2012 I was working at one back then, and it wasn't inexpensive gear we were using - we were using 2" 24 track machines, large format consoles - pretty much the same as everyone else was back then. You set (or were given) a budget, you did your pre-production, rented studio time, and went in and made the record. Indie labels weren't all making a killing - most failed, same as always... but that doesn't mean they didn't exist. Heck, you can go back to the 1950s and even earlier and find indie labels... some of which did very well. Atlantic for example. Want more? How about Chrysalis, IRS, Matador, Tooth & Nail, Epitaph. Rough Trade, etc. etc.Yes, marketing was different, and distribution was different - you had to use an actual distributor who could get you into stores, and you had to advertise on the radio and in print, and have a promotion department - again, just like any other label. You had some challenges, but you also had a lot less "noise" to contend with. Yeah, that was pretty much my point. It seems like people always want to blame every failure of their own band, their favorite band, their favorite record label, etc. on the new technology and specifically on file-sharing. But it's always been damn near impossible to make it in the music industry and it's always been damn near impossible to keep an indie record label devoted to obscure and challenging music afloat for many years. Technological innovations have presented new challenges, but they have also made it way easier and way cheaper to record and distribute. If anything, I feel like alot of what gets blamed on file-sharing, is actually the result of the market being flooded due to how easy it is to record and distribute records now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members christianatl Posted September 11, 2012 Members Share Posted September 11, 2012 Well put. I don't mind that we are responsible for our own recording. It seems more natural. I don't want to feel like an employee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BHz_econo Posted September 11, 2012 Members Share Posted September 11, 2012 Nice to see hcfx is back AND back to arguing about nonsense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members The Villano Dude Posted September 11, 2012 Members Share Posted September 11, 2012 Sad news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members hivedestruction Posted September 11, 2012 Members Share Posted September 11, 2012 Bum deal. I have lots of good memories listening to music from this label over the years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members p0lymath Posted September 11, 2012 Members Share Posted September 11, 2012 After months of being away, I come back to learn this? {censored}. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members arthurdent'd Posted September 11, 2012 Members Share Posted September 11, 2012 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mhRt007VAg check this rad vid, bad vibes in this thread...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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