Members OverDriven Posted February 5, 2008 Members Share Posted February 5, 2008 if you don't want the amp models just get an eventide eclipse imo.http://www.eventide.com/AudioDivision/Products/Harmonizers/Eclipse.aspx then click the media tab, there used to be a bunch more don't know why they got rid of them.... I was considering it, but after a few more hours of research today, I think I might just grab a Verbzilla (to use the Octo setting...it's a "shimmer" effect) and Nova Delay. I'm only after the Edge sound and $2000 is more than my amp cost! I can get a verbzilla and Nova for like $300 together. I think they will do a really good impersonation of the Edge sound together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JBecker Posted February 5, 2008 Members Share Posted February 5, 2008 Doesn't the Edge just use 1 or 2 DMM into AC30s? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Zachman Posted February 5, 2008 Members Share Posted February 5, 2008 Doesn't the Edge just use 1 or 2 DMM into AC30s? no: [YOUTUBE]a107MOXhuCk&feature=related[/YOUTUBE] [YOUTUBE]U_2Q7DYujEI&feature=related[/YOUTUBE] [YOUTUBE]0EIorYx-Pjo&feature=related[/YOUTUBE] [YOUTUBE]Q5ax1t-ZpBg&feature=related[/YOUTUBE] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JBecker Posted February 5, 2008 Members Share Posted February 5, 2008 Well no, I know he uses significant amounts of other equipment, but I was pretty sure I saw several videos where the core of his original recorded tone and early stuff before building a monster rig was just DMM -> AC30. Maybe I'm thinking of Brian May. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RaceU4her Posted February 5, 2008 Members Share Posted February 5, 2008 how much do these things go for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Daniel Kamerman Posted February 5, 2008 Members Share Posted February 5, 2008 Can the G-force do sounds like that? I've never really tried with mine. Weird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JoshuaLogan Posted February 5, 2008 Author Members Share Posted February 5, 2008 Can the G-force do sounds like that?I've never really tried with mine. Weird. Really? I didn't think people would even bother with the big time rack effects unless they were really using them... if I just wanted a few simple delays/reverb/chorus and that's it I would just use a few pedals.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Daniel Kamerman Posted February 5, 2008 Members Share Posted February 5, 2008 Really? I didn't think people would even bother with the big time rack effects unless they were really using them... if I just wanted a few simple delays/reverb/chorus and that's it I would just use a few pedals.... I've never took like a full day to just sit and tweek with it, I'm too busy with work and social life too really mess with it. I should really do that soon. And that's weird you mention getting pedals, I've been wanting to sell my G-force and just buy a few pedals because I felt I didn't use a G-force like it should be used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JoshuaLogan Posted February 5, 2008 Author Members Share Posted February 5, 2008 I've never took like a full day to just sit and tweek with it, I'm too busy with work and social life too really mess with it. I should really do that soon. And that's weird you mention getting pedals, I've been wanting to sell my G-force and just buy a few pedals because I felt I didn't use a G-force like it should be used. ah, word. See, I LOVE this stuff. technical progressive metal is what I'm into the most, but other than that my favorite kind of music is really effects-heavy prog rock. spacey, ambient, atmospheric kinda stuff..... I love it. I don't know why. I just do. I think it's a whole separate art from being able to play guitar (and I'm really into shred... technical stuff)... It's just something about being able to create those dense soundscapes that trail off and really give a psychedelic feel to it and with well structured songs can really give a certain feel and mood to the music. I don't know. I guess I'm an effects nerd or something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Daniel Kamerman Posted February 5, 2008 Members Share Posted February 5, 2008 I've gotten into it, I've experimented with huge delays and reverbs, but never really took it any further. I still wanna keep it now that I think about it, it's an awesome unit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GITTarzann Posted February 5, 2008 Members Share Posted February 5, 2008 There is a lot of talk about the Axe's ability to do way out there stuff, and it can, but the unit can also do just normal stuff like add a dab of delay..or a hint of reverb, and it does it WORLD CLASS !! There are Axe owners who have had the digital leaders in delays and reverbs, like the TC 2290 or Eclipse, or H3000 Lexicon, etc. and they like the Fractal equal or better. They shelf or sell their stuff. That is what talks to me. Just a TC2290 is probably, what ? Around 1500 bucks used ? I am not sure, but I know they are not cheap. I don't use a lot of effects, but I hate cheesy sounding stuff, and the time I have spent with the Axe, I have not found any crappy sounding stuff. I have found a lot of stuff I wouldn't use, but stuff like delay and reverb have to sound good for me to like it, and the Axe does sound good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members HKSblade1 Posted February 5, 2008 Members Share Posted February 5, 2008 I'm on the list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JoshuaLogan Posted February 5, 2008 Author Members Share Posted February 5, 2008 There is a lot of talk about the Axe's ability to do way out there stuff, and it can, but the unit can also do just normal stuff like add a dab of delay..or a hint of reverb, and it does it WORLD CLASS !!There are Axe owners who have had the digital leaders in delays and reverbs, like the TC 2290 or Eclipse, or H3000 Lexicon, etc. and they like the Fractal equal or better. They shelf or sell their stuff. That is what talks to me.Just a TC2290 is probably, what ? Around 1500 bucks used ?I am not sure, but I know they are not cheap.I don't use a lot of effects, but I hate cheesy sounding stuff, and the time I have spent with the Axe, I have not found any crappy sounding stuff. I have found a lot of stuff I wouldn't use, but stuff like delay and reverb have to sound good for me to like it, and the Axe does sound good. Truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JoshuaLogan Posted February 5, 2008 Author Members Share Posted February 5, 2008 I'm on the list Nice. Try not to get too impatient. I've already been on it for a little over two months and I'm getting really, realllllllyyyyy impatient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mctallica1 Posted February 5, 2008 Members Share Posted February 5, 2008 Have I mentioned how much I like the Axe Fx? )))) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JBecker Posted February 5, 2008 Members Share Posted February 5, 2008 Is there any unit that adds effects post power amp? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JBecker Posted February 5, 2008 Members Share Posted February 5, 2008 Is there any unit that adds effects post power amp? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members starsnuffer Posted February 5, 2008 Members Share Posted February 5, 2008 Is there any unit that adds effects post power amp? The axe-FX is compltely routeable, so you can add effects post poweramp, or even post cab/mic. Actually, I find that for presets I use for direct recording, I'm usually putting time based FX after the cab/mic. You can also have multiple instances of the same effect. So, say you want a phaser in front of the amp input and another in the loop, you can do that just fine. -W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JoshuaLogan Posted February 5, 2008 Author Members Share Posted February 5, 2008 The axe-FX is compltely routeable, so you can add effects post poweramp, or even post cab/mic.Actually, I find that for presets I use for direct recording, I'm usually putting time based FX after the cab/mic.You can also have multiple instances of the same effect. So, say you want a phaser in front of the amp input and another in the loop, you can do that just fine.-W I think he means after an actual poweramp and before actual cabs.... and I don't think anything like that exists Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GITTarzann Posted February 5, 2008 Members Share Posted February 5, 2008 I have seen diagrams of rigs that used a device such as a Palmer speaker emulator or similar to soak the PT and then you add fx and go to a Clean power amp ...ala EVHthat is FX between the power amp and cab,You can also mic your cab in an iso booth go to a mixer to add time based effects then to a clean amp in to a flat cab.I prefer the Axe over either of these scenarios Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JBecker Posted February 5, 2008 Members Share Posted February 5, 2008 I think he means after an actual poweramp and before actual cabs.... and I don't think anything like that exists Correct. In line between my amp output to speaker. Too much of my sound is dependent upon some power amp tube breakup. It'd be interesting to go back to running some {censored} post-distortion again, though I'm ok how I am, but I realize that speaker level signal is not ripe for working with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JBecker Posted February 5, 2008 Members Share Posted February 5, 2008 I have seen diagrams of rigs that used a device such as a Palmer speaker emulator or similar to soak the PT and then you add fx and go to a Clean power amp ...ala EVH that is FX between the power amp and cab, You can also mic your cab in an iso booth go to a mixer to add time based effects then to a clean amp in to a flat cab. I prefer the Axe over either of these scenarios Yeah... too complicated. I was pretty sure that it's not really possible but thought maybe something was out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JoshuaLogan Posted February 5, 2008 Author Members Share Posted February 5, 2008 I have seen diagrams of rigs that used a device such as a Palmer speaker emulator or similar to soak the PT and then you add fx and go to a Clean power amp ...ala EVH that is FX between the power amp and cab, You can also mic your cab in an iso booth go to a mixer to add time based effects then to a clean amp in to a flat cab. I prefer the Axe over either of these scenarios Hmm cool. I wouldn't have thought of those ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Zachman Posted February 6, 2008 Members Share Posted February 6, 2008 Correct. In line between my amp output to speaker. Too much of my sound is dependent upon some power amp tube breakup. It'd be interesting to go back to running some {censored} post-distortion again, though I'm ok how I am, but I realize that speaker level signal is not ripe for working with. No you'd wreck your line level gear running a load level signal into it. You could mic your middle "dry" cabinet, and send that signal to a mic pre, into a mixer and feed your effects that way then run your miked signal of your amp and speakers into a recording console like Landau does, or run that signal into a separate stereo power amp and run two "wet" cabs for your stereo effects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members olejason Posted February 6, 2008 Members Share Posted February 6, 2008 That sounded pretty slick. Not something I would ever want/need but the sounds are impressive. ^this coming from an fx forum guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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