Members peppe6v6 Posted April 10, 2008 Members Share Posted April 10, 2008 LIsten here the difference: The first with mids to 12 o' clock presence at 16 o' clock and highs at 15 o' clock: http://www.myjonesmusic.com/code/music/wimpywindow.php/s9126 the second with no mids prsence near max and highs at 11 o' clock: http://www.myjonesmusic.com/code/music/wimpywindow.php/s9128 Night and day I think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Alex Pareja Posted April 10, 2008 Members Share Posted April 10, 2008 I'd have to say the first one sounds fatter and has a bit more growl. The second one sounds tighter but definitely thinner. Nice tone regardless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sandman31774 Posted April 10, 2008 Members Share Posted April 10, 2008 i like teh midz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Angry Grimace Posted April 10, 2008 Members Share Posted April 10, 2008 LIsten here the difference:The first with mids to 12 o' clock presence at 16 o' clock and highs at 15 o' clock:http://www.myjonesmusic.com/code/music/wimpywindow.php/s9126 the second with no mids prsence near max and highs at 11 o' clock:http://www.myjonesmusic.com/code/music/wimpywindow.php/s9128Night and day I thinkclocks only go up to 12 o clock unless you have some weird military time clock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Argh! Zombies! Posted April 10, 2008 Members Share Posted April 10, 2008 I think you might have ear fatigue from trying this too long in one sitting! First one sounds best to me, some nice tone and musicality between the peaks. The second one sounds almost like 100% texture. Less toneful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members phyrexia Posted April 10, 2008 Members Share Posted April 10, 2008 there are only 12 hours on a clock OMG Angry Grimace is your signature a real quote or is it out of context? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members peppe6v6 Posted April 10, 2008 Author Members Share Posted April 10, 2008 I'd have to say the first one sounds fatter and has a bit more growl. The second one sounds tighter but definitely thinner. Nice tone regardless. To me the first sound a bit fizzy and muddy i think the second is much more musical and more balanced Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members thefyn Posted April 10, 2008 Members Share Posted April 10, 2008 there are only 12 hours on a clockOMG Angry Grimace is your signature a real quote or is it out of context? That has to be sarcasm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members peppe6v6 Posted April 10, 2008 Author Members Share Posted April 10, 2008 clocks only go up to 12 o clock unless you have some weird military time clock. Scuse me it's true:) how much I'm stupid! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Zeppelin Rules Posted April 10, 2008 Members Share Posted April 10, 2008 there are only 12 hours on a clockOMG Angry Grimace is your signature a real quote or is it out of context? Nope someone actually started a thread about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JonathanD Posted April 10, 2008 Members Share Posted April 10, 2008 clocks only go up to 12 o clock unless you have some weird military time clock. haha. win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members "sasquatch" Posted April 10, 2008 Members Share Posted April 10, 2008 LIsten here the difference:The first with mids to 12 o' clock presence at 16 o' clock and highs at 15 o' clock:http://www.myjonesmusic.com/code/music/wimpywindow.php/s9126 the second with no mids prsence near max and highs at 11 o' clock:http://www.myjonesmusic.com/code/music/wimpywindow.php/s9128Night and day I think i think this just proves 1 thing: a plexi sounds good no matter what. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Weathered Posted April 10, 2008 Members Share Posted April 10, 2008 Peppe fell for the oldest joke in the book - thinking that the knobs on a Marshall actually do something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members telephant Posted April 10, 2008 Members Share Posted April 10, 2008 LIsten here the difference:The first with mids to 12 o' clock presence at 16 o' clock and highs at 15 o' clock:http://www.myjonesmusic.com/code/music/wimpywindow.php/s9126 the second with no mids prsence near max and highs at 11 o' clock:http://www.myjonesmusic.com/code/music/wimpywindow.php/s9128Night and day I think Both of those clips sound thin to me. You should try cranking the mids to 10 and recording that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members "sasquatch" Posted April 10, 2008 Members Share Posted April 10, 2008 Peppe fell for the oldest joke in the book - thinking that the knobs on a Marshall actually do something. hard for me to tell too. every time i have played one i am too busy soiling myself from the volume. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members telephant Posted April 10, 2008 Members Share Posted April 10, 2008 Both of those clips sound thin to me. You should try cranking the mids to 10 and recording that. And roll back the treble to 3 or 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members peppe6v6 Posted April 10, 2008 Author Members Share Posted April 10, 2008 Both of those clips sound thin to me. You should try cranking the mids to 10 and recording that. I was tryng to go in the directon of VH tone if you listen his tone in 1984 that is the cd that i'm listening now, the tone there isn't very fat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Herald of Light Posted April 10, 2008 Members Share Posted April 10, 2008 And roll back the treble to 3 or 4. Yes, it has the ice pick thing going on. That's the biggest problem to me, and probably what's making it sound thin, since it screams for attention from your ears. But all the same, I'd probably turn the mids up all the way, anyways. I can't think of any particular normal Marshall that I ever thought sounded better with the mids lowered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members telephant Posted April 10, 2008 Members Share Posted April 10, 2008 I was tryng to go in the directon of VH tone if you listen his tone in 1984 that is the cd that i'm listening now, the tone there isn't very fat. Fatter than the tone you posted IMO. Plug into just the high input, crank Vol 1 to 10. pres: 6bass: 4 or 5mids: 7 or 8treble: 3 or 4 That will get you closer to VH IMO... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members peppe6v6 Posted April 10, 2008 Author Members Share Posted April 10, 2008 Fatter than the tone you posted IMO. Plug into just the high input, crank Vol 1 to 10.pres: 6bass: 4 or 5mids: 7 or 8treble: 3 or 4That will get you closer to VH IMO... I will trybut to my ears the CD i'm listening now sound even thinner, has less bass and overall a not very large tone is not the size of the tone that makes it great for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Herald of Light Posted April 10, 2008 Members Share Posted April 10, 2008 Guitar in decent recordings rarely has much/any bass. That's not what makes a guitar sound big. You can't even distinguish it, even if it is there. It's the mids. Some VH sounds pretty thin and borderline scoopy to me, but your treble still sounds too high. Listen to both of your clips really loud. They're ear death. Fix that, and it will be a heck of a lot more balanced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members peppe6v6 Posted April 10, 2008 Author Members Share Posted April 10, 2008 Guitar in decent recordings rarely has much/any bass. That's not what makes a guitar sound big. You can't even distinguish it, even if it is there. It's the mids.Some VH sounds pretty thin and borderline scoopy to me, but your treble still sounds too high. Listen to both of your clips really loud. They're ear death. Fix that, and it will be a heck of a lot more balanced. Thank you for the suggestion:thu: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ZebCahan Posted April 12, 2008 Members Share Posted April 12, 2008 About the clock thing, going to 12 only: Its not really true, because here in Sweden for example we dont use A.M. and P.M., We say 16.00. when the clock is 4 PM and 20.00 when its 8 PM and so on. I dont know how its in Italy (The author seems to be from Italy?) but maybe its something like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jaytee123 Posted April 12, 2008 Members Share Posted April 12, 2008 The second one sounds almost like 100% texture. Less toneful. Translation: Warmer Both sounds are good. The first one has more of that 80's sound. But if warm is good for you, thats good too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members LaXu Posted April 12, 2008 Members Share Posted April 12, 2008 About the clock thing, going to 12 only:Its not really true, because here in Sweden for example we dont use A.M. and P.M., We say 16.00. when the clock is 4 PM and 20.00 when its 8 PM and so on.I dont know how its in Italy (The author seems to be from Italy?) but maybe its something like that. That doesn't change the fact that the clock only has 12 hours on the dial. So when describing a DIRECTION instead of 15 o'clock you'd normally say 3 o'clock no matter if you use the 12 or 24 hour format. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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