Members Digital Jams Posted June 24, 2008 Members Share Posted June 24, 2008 Guys that chase tone all day long and flip amps or rate by labels......................... [YOUTUBE]nPGq21y-jKQ[/YOUTUBE] Guys that practice and dont sweat the tones as much........................ [YOUTUBE]aYlx5gW90Aw[/YOUTUBE] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members kinggeoff Posted June 24, 2008 Members Share Posted June 24, 2008 i never understand the amp flipping but i still sux at guitario but THAT TOP GUY!!! HAHAHAHAAH shiiiiit. I never saw that clip before!! Suddenly I feel AMAZING about my lack of chops. Is that the average sabbath fan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sah5150 Posted June 24, 2008 Members Share Posted June 24, 2008 At least post somebody who chases tone all day long who has good tone. Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members EdgeOfDarkness Posted June 24, 2008 Members Share Posted June 24, 2008 That bogner sounded like crap...tonewise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Digital Jams Posted June 24, 2008 Author Members Share Posted June 24, 2008 At least post somebody who chases tone all day long who has good tone. Steve You dont have any vids though Steve Ok........Guys that have gone to the shed THEN went out looking for tone..... [YOUTUBE]FL8aeeSTthQ[/YOUTUBE] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members newholland Posted June 24, 2008 Members Share Posted June 24, 2008 both are utterly rediculous in their own peculiar and awful way... what about guys who WRITE good music? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SnaxSlingerAns Posted June 24, 2008 Members Share Posted June 24, 2008 Eh....I agree to a certain extent, but I don't suck(why...I dunno, cause I don't really practice that much, I just jam when I feel like it and band practice once a week), AND I flip amps a lot.......or used to. I've calmed down substantially. -Ans- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ><--> Posted June 24, 2008 Members Share Posted June 24, 2008 both are utterly rediculous in their own peculiar and awful way...what about guys who WRITE good music? /thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ham fist Posted June 24, 2008 Members Share Posted June 24, 2008 "Black Sabbath Iron MaaaaannnLes Paul Bogner Uberschaaaaallllll" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Oblivion DC Posted June 24, 2008 Members Share Posted June 24, 2008 both are utterly rediculous in their own peculiar and awful way... what about guys who WRITE good music? Paul Gilbert is ridiculous?? How so?? The guy's a monster chop fiend and he can write as well. I don't see the awful side of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sah5150 Posted June 24, 2008 Members Share Posted June 24, 2008 You dont have any vids though Steve I don't know why you're suggesting me... I don't chase tone OR practice all day, thus I'm useless for this comparison... :poke: Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members PurityS.L.G. Posted June 24, 2008 Members Share Posted June 24, 2008 Well I do both and play just fine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Weathered Posted June 24, 2008 Members Share Posted June 24, 2008 what about guys who WRITE good music? I agree with this post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members thinkpad20 Posted June 24, 2008 Members Share Posted June 24, 2008 Paul Gilbert is ridiculous?? How so?? The guy's a monster chop fiend and he can write as well. I don't see the awful side of him. +1 I don't really listen to him that much, but there are far worse offenders. Case in point: pm_RoYN8IZs Great playing, but it's teh :bor: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Digital Jams Posted June 24, 2008 Author Members Share Posted June 24, 2008 I agree with this post. I posted EJ for you artsy guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DeathMonkey Posted June 24, 2008 Members Share Posted June 24, 2008 I think there can be a symbiosis, tho. Good tone - or at least a tone that I like - is more likely to get me to practice or play than if I have some tone that leaves me uninspired. I think a lot of dudes are just expecting to get something coming out of their amps that sounds "just like the record", or "just like dude X". They aren't looking for THEIR tone, but some idealized sound that quite frankly doesn't exist. I'll tell ya, if before I started playing VHTs you had asked me what I wanted my tone to sound like, it would have been 180 from what it is now. But I've been happier with them for longer than almost any other setup I've had, closer to having a personal signature sound. So I think there are people who search until they have that revelation, and people who search just looking for something that doesn't exist. And some people just like new stuff. But I think that there is also a difference between " this amp sounds good" and " this amp makes me play better and more often". I try to go for the latter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Chrisjd Posted June 24, 2008 Members Share Posted June 24, 2008 both are utterly rediculous in their own peculiar and awful way...what about guys who WRITE good music? /threadx3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Shiny_Surface Posted June 24, 2008 Members Share Posted June 24, 2008 Guys that chase tone all day long and flip amps or rate by labels......................... Fully agree Problem is you can't "hear" (per se) an internet forum, so throwing alot of money around and posting pics gets you the cred in this reality Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Weathered Posted June 24, 2008 Members Share Posted June 24, 2008 I think there can be a symbiosis, tho. Good tone - or at least a tone that I like - is more likely to get me to practice or play than if I have some tone that leaves me uninspired. I think a lot of dudes are just expecting to get something coming out of their amps that sounds "just like the record", or "just like dude X". They aren't looking for THEIR tone, but some idealized sound that quite frankly doesn't exist. I'll tell ya, if before I started playing VHTs you had asked me what I wanted my tone to sound like, it would have been 180 from what it is now. But I've been happier with them for longer than almost any other setup I've had, closer to having a personal signature sound. So I think there are people who search until they have that revelation, and people who search just looking for something that doesn't exist. And some people just like new stuff. But I think that there is also a difference between " this amp sounds good" and " this amp makes me play better and more often". I try to go for the latter. I was dragged kicking and screaming into my realization that no matter what gear I have, I sound like me, and not like . As much as I'd love the tone from the Hold Steady's records to come forth from my fingertips everytime I plug in, it's not going to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sex Panther Posted June 24, 2008 Members Share Posted June 24, 2008 Paul Gilbert is ridiculous?? How so?? The guy's a monster chop fiend and he can write as well. I don't see the awful side of him. Jealousy and lack of knowledge FTMFL. Gilbert is a beast. Yeah, Mr. Big sucked and was just all shred all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NeloAngelo Posted June 24, 2008 Members Share Posted June 24, 2008 what? paul gilbert doesnt write good music? when did this happen? /thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Digital Jams Posted June 24, 2008 Author Members Share Posted June 24, 2008 I think there can be a symbiosis, tho. Good tone - or at least a tone that I like - is more likely to get me to practice or play than if I have some tone that leaves me uninspired. I think a lot of dudes are just expecting to get something coming out of their amps that sounds "just like the record", or "just like dude X". They aren't looking for THEIR tone, but some idealized sound that quite frankly doesn't exist. I'll tell ya, if before I started playing VHTs you had asked me what I wanted my tone to sound like, it would have been 180 from what it is now. But I've been happier with them for longer than almost any other setup I've had, closer to having a personal signature sound. So I think there are people who search until they have that revelation, and people who search just looking for something that doesn't exist. And some people just like new stuff. But I think that there is also a difference between " this amp sounds good" and " this amp makes me play better and more often". I try to go for the latter. I agree with this. My "tone" has changed the last couple of years as I got rid of my super soaked compressed tones and really started to practice. Things changed and amps that I did not like all of a sudden I enjoyed because I could play them, like Plexi type amps. I am back to the soaked tones but with better chops and now my stuff sounds better imo. Some amps will "mask" ones bad habits but a guitarist will always hear it. The age old " gain covers slop" arguement It does not to the guitar players in the crowd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DeathMonkey Posted June 24, 2008 Members Share Posted June 24, 2008 I was dragged kicking and screaming into my realization that no matter what gear I have, I sound like me, and not like . As much as I'd love the tone from the Hold Steady's records to come forth from my fingertips everytime I plug in, it's not going to be. I toyed with the idea of throwing every massive amp I have at my new record, I really did. And then realized that I didn't want to sound like every other band on the planet. And people remark that it sounds pretty unique. In some ways, I think that serves me better than some generic overwrought massive tone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jaytee123 Posted June 24, 2008 Members Share Posted June 24, 2008 Video#1: Guy who just started playing the guitar at middle age, but has tons of money to spend on great gear due to his job as a systems analyst. Video #2 Guy who started playing guitar at age 8, earned tons of money for the best equipment by practicing and eating and {censored}ting guitar on a daily basis until middle age, where he is adored as a god and can make any amp sound good through his mastery of technique. Paul Gilbert & No name amp over mjiddle age crisis guy and his bogner...any day of the week! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sah5150 Posted June 24, 2008 Members Share Posted June 24, 2008 I agree with this. My "tone" has changed the last couple of years as I got rid of my super soaked compressed tones and really started to practice. Things changed and amps that I did not like all of a sudden I enjoyed because I could play them, like Plexi type amps. I am back to the soaked tones but with better chops and now my stuff sounds better imo. Some amps will "mask" ones bad habits but a guitarist will always hear it. The age old " gain covers slop" arguement It does not to the guitar players in the crowd. Clips please?!!! :poke: Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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