Members Bumhucker Posted December 2, 2011 Members Share Posted December 2, 2011 Gotta be born with it. When I think of crappy singers that dude from muddle of pudd comes to mind. He was always a bit flat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members "sasquatch" Posted December 2, 2011 Members Share Posted December 2, 2011 Buy a cheap recording device and a cheap mic. Also singing in the car helps. Record yourself singing. You will be horrified at first, then the only way is up. I completely overreach skills wise and try and sing peaks I have no way of reaching. After 20 takes, I find myself getting close. Right now I am COMPLETELY stumped recording vocals for this track I am working on: http://soundcloud.com/tock-1/could-this-be-the-day-earlyBut I'll get there in the end so much this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members HKSblade1 Posted December 2, 2011 Members Share Posted December 2, 2011 she's like 9 or 10 ? has a cd and tours! amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members grunge782 Posted December 2, 2011 Members Share Posted December 2, 2011 You are born with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mogwix Posted December 2, 2011 Members Share Posted December 2, 2011 This is all been said, but finding a good vocal coach will only benefit you and your singing. The next best thing is to record yourself singing and listen to things you can improve on... and you'll probably be embarrassed by your first attempts. You'll improve with practice and training, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Kardula Posted December 2, 2011 Members Share Posted December 2, 2011 it can be learned to a degree, just like anything but natural talent and dedication will go a long way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ke2 Posted December 2, 2011 Members Share Posted December 2, 2011 80% is natural, 20% is practice, smart practice. Join a chorus/choir, because to become a good singer, you have to sing A LOT. Not just 2 hours every friday at practice, but all the time. Drink lots of water, warm up, and rest when your voice is tired. You singing voice can be very different from your talking voice. I can sing pretty high, but my talking voice is low. The highs are all practice, it's not "natural" for my voice to get that high, even if my voice has become lower as I get older. With falsetto, I'm around 5 octaves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Nerine Posted December 2, 2011 Members Share Posted December 2, 2011 It can be taught and learned. I used to think I was a {censored} singer. Now, I'm not perfect by any means, but I'm happy to front a band and release a solo album Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Zeppelin Rules Posted December 2, 2011 Members Share Posted December 2, 2011 You can learn to sing with proper pitch, but as for actual vocal timbre that's something you're mostly born with. Think about it like this. No two people's voices sound the same. Sure you can learn to sound more like someone else, but the core sound is always going to be there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ManofWar55 Posted December 3, 2011 Members Share Posted December 3, 2011 As much as I don't want to sound like a conceited know-it-all dick...disregard all of the comments about having to be born with the ability to sing. Your voice is as much an instrument as a guitar is. When you began playing guitar, you sucked right? Well, for most people, singing is the same. You start out {censored}ty, and get better with practice. Vocal lessons can do absolute wonders, specifically Opera, regardless of your singing style. Check out Chris Clancy. He's the ex-singer of Mutiny Within and obviously a fantastic vocalist. He told me that he had zero natural talent with singing, couldn't hold a note to save his life. He said he was a guitarist and pianist. I can't remember the exact story, but I think he was in a band with 3 guitarists and no vocalists, so they literally drew straws to figure out who was to be the singer. Chris got it and started taking vocal lessons. He doesn't sound too bad now does he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Slaymoar Posted December 3, 2011 Members Share Posted December 3, 2011 Its natural. You can learn to sign "better", but you can't go from {censored}ty to amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ke2 Posted December 3, 2011 Members Share Posted December 3, 2011 He might still have had talent, but not known how to utilize it It's really the same with guitar. Someone has it very easy getting difficult stuff down, while others have to practice like hell. I believe every "art form" needs some sort of talent. Whether you know you have it or not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ManofWar55 Posted December 3, 2011 Members Share Posted December 3, 2011 He might still have had talent, but not known how to utilize it It's really the same with guitar. Someone has it very easy getting difficult stuff down, while others have to practice like hell. I believe every "art form" needs some sort of talent. Whether you know you have it or not That's definitely true, but most people don't realize they do have vocal talent and don't pursue it. Anyone can sing in key and sound pretty good is what I'm saying. Just like anyone can learn to play guitar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cbc83 Posted December 3, 2011 Members Share Posted December 3, 2011 I'd say everyone can get to the point where singing to their kids and family is perfectly fine, and they hit the right notes and have good technique. My problem is a very bland singing voice. I sang in choirs for years, had good range, good pitch and technique, but on my own, it has no character. THAT part you're born with - or achieve through heavy whiskey drinking and smoking... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Y0UNGBL00D Posted December 3, 2011 Members Share Posted December 3, 2011 singing, as in breath control and technique, is like a muscle. it can be exercised and built, and you will lose it when out of practice. pitch, not so sure. my problem is finding my voice. i can imitate other singers fairly well, but singing like "me" is proving incredibly difficult. also picking a vocal style and writing vocal melodies for my band's music is proving quite frustrating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ke2 Posted December 3, 2011 Members Share Posted December 3, 2011 I'd say everyone can get to the point where singing to their kids and family is perfectly fine, and they hit the right notes and have good technique. My problem is a very bland singing voice. I sang in choirs for years, had good range, good pitch and technique, but on my own, it has no character. THAT part you're born with - or achieve through heavy whiskey drinking and smoking... Like when someone picks up a Squier, plug into a Marshall MG and still sound amazing.. You can have a Squier-voice or a LP Custom voice. You can put new pickups, tuners and a Callaham-bridge on the Squier. It will sound better, but it's still a Squier It's the one instrument where money really doesn't matter that much, hehehe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members teemuk Posted December 3, 2011 Members Share Posted December 3, 2011 You can learn to sing, the techniques of it that is, but you are born with your voice. Your singing will only be as good as your voice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members PaoloJM Posted December 3, 2011 Members Share Posted December 3, 2011 I'm not so sure about the "born with it" bit.I've never heard of anyone who just started singing, and was amazing. The idea of natural ability would mean that a 4 year child would be amazing from the first time they try. To my mind it's down to this:Young children learn extremely quickly.This is a major factor for two huge reasons:1. Kids that are encouraged and have lots of singing in a fun way around them will be drawn to it. They learn to love singing and also learn pitch/timing etc. in a nice encouraging environment. I'm fully convinced the go on to be the people with "natural talent". 2. Kids that are told to shut up and don't have much music around their house learn very quickly too. Kids being told to be quiet/shut up etc. is known to be linked with adult that hate their own voice. I'm convinced that these kids grow up to be the tone deaf ones. I guess most people fall somewhere between those two extremes. Your "natural ability" and ability to learn will form a direct relationship to where you fall between the two extremes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members beatpoet Posted December 3, 2011 Members Share Posted December 3, 2011 You can learn to sing, but whether you were born with a good voice or not is another matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ke2 Posted December 3, 2011 Members Share Posted December 3, 2011 I'm not so sure about the "born with it" bit. I've never heard of anyone who just started singing, and was amazing. The idea of natural ability would mean that a 4 year child would be amazing from the first time they try. To my mind it's down to this: Young children learn extremely quickly. This is a major factor for two huge reasons: 1. Kids that are encouraged and have lots of singing in a fun way around them will be drawn to it. They learn to love singing and also learn pitch/timing etc. in a nice encouraging environment. I'm fully convinced the go on to be the people with "natural talent". 2. Kids that are told to shut up and don't have much music around their house learn very quickly too. Kids being told to be quiet/shut up etc. is known to be linked with adult that hate their own voice. I'm convinced that these kids grow up to be the tone deaf ones. I guess most people fall somewhere between those two extremes. Your "natural ability" and ability to learn will form a direct relationship to where you fall between the two extremes. Not everyone has a pleasing voice that makes people ask them to sing MORE, even if they can carry a tune That's the "natural" part. I can sing okay (been singing for 35 years:D), but me and a great singer would make two very different takes of the same song, with the same band, singing the same words over the same melody. And I've definitely been practicing and singing a LOT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members PaoloJM Posted December 3, 2011 Members Share Posted December 3, 2011 Not everyone has a pleasing voice that makes people ask them to sing MORE, even if they can carry a tune That's the "natural" part. I can sing okay (been singing for 35 years:D), but me and a great singer would make two very different takes of the same song, with the same band, singing the same words over the same melody. And I've definitely been practicing and singing a LOT The tonality of the voice is subjective, just like amplifiers. Tonality is also largely affected by what's going on in the persons head, and so is not related to being "born with it". Character and delivery, however, is what gives use a convincing/desirable performance, even when both versions of the performance are technically perfect in terms of pitch/timing etc. These are things that are also mostly related to personality, the persons formative years, and how they've learned to adapt since. I'm trying to learn to sing, following a childhood of being told consistently to shut up, be seen and not heard etc. My father also used to deliberately sing out of tune/time and with a stupid voice in order to make a mockery of the music that was on the radio. He was a sports kind of guy. That's the environment I was in during the formative years. The biggest advancements that I have made have been mental, not to do with practise, and I have been practising a lot (2 hours + per day). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Pepi Posted December 3, 2011 Members Share Posted December 3, 2011 Can anyone learn to play Pro Football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members slushpup96 Posted December 4, 2011 Members Share Posted December 4, 2011 This might not be everyone's cup of tea (kind of indie/garage rock) but it shows this Matt Murphy (lead singer of Liverpudlian band The Wombats) steady progress as a singer. Here's a video from 2005, one of the band's first songs. Then this is in 2006. Here's when the album which had that above song (Lost in the Post) was released. It's from 2007. After that, the band toured and stuff for a while. Then their new album came out April of this year. Here's a song from their new album that I like and I think it shows how much he improved. [video=youtube;w-kZnxM7-7I]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-kZnxM7-7I So I think that if you work at it, you can learn to sing. Some people are born good at it, but if you work towards it, I believe you can be just as good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members OverDriven Posted December 4, 2011 Members Share Posted December 4, 2011 You are either born with a usable voice or not. Learning how to manipulate it properly comes with practice, but whether or not you have the instrument in the first place is all about genetics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members blckbldng Posted December 4, 2011 Members Share Posted December 4, 2011 I believe that a high percentage of American people can sing because of the way you speak. It comes deep from your chest when French speaking people like me use the mouth an jaw to make sounds. or maybe it is just because you are a bunch of loud bastards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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