Members madrigal77 Posted January 6, 2012 Members Share Posted January 6, 2012 Might just have a dud. It happens with every brand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cliff Fiscal Posted January 6, 2012 Author Members Share Posted January 6, 2012 Are you using JJ preamp tubes? Not in everything. I plugged in my brand new Tweaker 40 and it was a little flat....the cab has HOT100s in it now.....which probably aren't the best match anyway. I'm going to try my Veteran 30s or my Weber Sig 12s speakers and see what happens. If it's still flat, I'll probably just ditch it unloaded on craigslist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mr Songwriter Posted January 6, 2012 Members Share Posted January 6, 2012 RE: the effect that cabs have on tone, I know that it makes a difference, but I'd be surprised if it was as important as the speakers or the amp, and it's probably more the Bass end of things it affects rather than the high end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Zozobra Posted January 6, 2012 Members Share Posted January 6, 2012 Could just be that your ears have gone off. Happens over time and volume Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cliff Fiscal Posted January 6, 2012 Author Members Share Posted January 6, 2012 Could just be that your ears have gone off. Happens over time and volume I don't think that's the case either.......I A/B'd it last night with my Vox cab....the vox cab sounded fine. (plus I almost always wear ear plugs.....when playing or going out to shows.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Nerine Posted January 6, 2012 Members Share Posted January 6, 2012 It has a massive effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members spoonie g Posted January 6, 2012 Members Share Posted January 6, 2012 Maybe a dumb question, but have you tried taking the front cover off? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cliff Fiscal Posted January 6, 2012 Author Members Share Posted January 6, 2012 Maybe a dumb question, but have you tried taking the front cover off? not dumb, because no I haven't......could the grill make that much difference? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members spoonie g Posted January 6, 2012 Members Share Posted January 6, 2012 not dumb, because no I haven't......could the grill make that much difference? Uhh, yeah, that's probably the main thing affecting it (no one seriously thought of that?). I believe that model is based off the orange, which uses a very thick grill cloth, which makes the cab sound darker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members PaoloJM Posted January 6, 2012 Members Share Posted January 6, 2012 Is the cab the right way around? Unless the grill cloth is really thick I doubt that's the problem. I'm stumped, assuming you're not trolling the {censored} out of everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members spoonie g Posted January 6, 2012 Members Share Posted January 6, 2012 Is the cab the right way around? Unless the grill cloth is really thick I doubt that's the problem. I'm stumped, assuming you're not trolling the {censored} out of everyone. Have you ever put something in front of a speaker? Jeesh I wonder why I ever come here anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cliff Fiscal Posted January 6, 2012 Author Members Share Posted January 6, 2012 Is the cab the right way around? Unless the grill cloth is really thick I doubt that's the problem. I'm stumped, assuming you're not trolling the {censored} out of everyone. HA! I think the cab is just dark.......I'll try it without the back panel to see if that does anything..... Probably should check the jack and the wiring too...... Not trolling, the cab is dark no matter which speakers are in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members spoonie g Posted January 6, 2012 Members Share Posted January 6, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members PaoloJM Posted January 6, 2012 Members Share Posted January 6, 2012 Have you ever put something in front of a speaker? Jeesh I wonder why I ever come here anymore. Yes. Jeez I wonder why you ever come here anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ron Burgandy Posted January 6, 2012 Members Share Posted January 6, 2012 It looks like this, but in cream color. He doesn't have the Orange style cab. That grill cloth will barely make a difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members spoonie g Posted January 6, 2012 Members Share Posted January 6, 2012 He doesn't have the Orange style cab. That grill cloth will barely make a difference. Well all I was basing it off the fact that I have ran different grill cloths in my orange and it did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cougar Hunter Posted January 6, 2012 Members Share Posted January 6, 2012 TRY IT IN A DIFFERENT ROOM! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cliff Fiscal Posted January 6, 2012 Author Members Share Posted January 6, 2012 It's not the room. It has consistently sounded dark. Plus two cabs in one room, one sounds great, the avatar sounds dark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members grumphh Posted January 6, 2012 Members Share Posted January 6, 2012 It looks like this, but in cream color. Here is the culprit. The colour pigment they use in the orange is much more conducive to the mid frequncies, making it a great choice for guitars. The cream otoh has a different pigment in it that emphasizes the lows, making it perfect for bass, but pretty much unuseable for guitars. ... ...this actually makes sense if you believe that the enclosure makes any difference in tone beyond altering bass response Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members superflyinmonke Posted January 6, 2012 Members Share Posted January 6, 2012 Unload it, sell it and get a proper cab. If the plywood used isn't as stiff as it should be, it can definitely suck some resonance out, making it seem dead. Time to face the facts and order a new one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members '63-Strat Posted January 6, 2012 Members Share Posted January 6, 2012 I definitely think cabs make a difference. I've played lots of different cabs with V30s and they all sounded different even with the same amp/guitar etc. So... yeah. Speakers definitely make a big difference too though obviously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Belva Posted January 6, 2012 Members Share Posted January 6, 2012 I've tried WGS GBs, Celestion HOT100s (for my Matamp), V30s, and even some Weber Alnico 12S. All sort of dark and muted.....in the Avatar closed back 2x12I put some of the same speakers in a open back Vox 2x12 and they sounded better. Try it with the back off the Avatar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members benjamin801 Posted January 6, 2012 Members Share Posted January 6, 2012 I definitely think cabs make a difference. I've played lots of different cabs with V30s and they all sounded different even with the same amp/guitar etc. So... yeah. Speakers definitely make a big difference too though obviously. A great example of this is the Mesa Recto Standard vs. the Mesa Recto Traditional, which are made of the exact same materials in the same workshop, loaded with the same speakers, and sound and react noticeably differently purely because the Standard is about four inches taller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ron Burgandy Posted January 6, 2012 Members Share Posted January 6, 2012 Well all I was basing it off the fact that I have ran different grill cloths in my orange and it did. aaaaaaaaand you were wrong in this thread he doesn't have your gunky Orange grill cloth, because he has a better cab. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DEADBYDAWN Posted January 6, 2012 Members Share Posted January 6, 2012 I've tried WGS GBs, Celestion HOT100s (for my Matamp), V30s, and even some Weber Alnico 12S. All sort of dark and muted.....in the Avatar closed back 2x12 I put some of the same speakers in a open back Vox 2x12 and they sounded better. You say this then you later say you discovered it had no sound absorbing material in the cab........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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