Members SnowStorm Posted October 19, 2012 Members Share Posted October 19, 2012 Originally Posted by Ricky Bobby This is just dumb. Not even in the realm of reality kind of dumb. Where did you possibly read this and what makes you even begin to think its true? I think your confused by what the speaker size is doing to the frequency response. A 10" will be a bit more focused on the low end and more middy and punchy. Punchy like a shotgun blast, it sprays like a a buckshot bullet. 12" are a bit more beaming and straight ahead. They will have a bit bigger bass response. They shoot more like a rifle, long and straight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ron Burgandy Posted October 19, 2012 Members Share Posted October 19, 2012 Originally Posted by SnowStorm In this scenario, 2 10" speakers would disperse more sound than 1 12" speaker. The same as a 2x12 cab compared to a 4x10. Originally Posted by SnowStorm I think your confused by what the speaker size is doing to the frequency response. A 10" will be a bit more focused on the low end and more middy and punchy. Punchy like a shotgun blast, it sprays like a a buckshot bullet. 12" are a bit more beaming and straight ahead. They will have a bit bigger bass response. They shoot more like a rifle, long and straight. Yes, 2 speakers will disperse more sound than a single speaker. No, 10's aren't inherently better at spreading sound compared to a similar 12" speaker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members peavey_impact Posted October 19, 2012 Members Share Posted October 19, 2012 Originally Posted by guitarbilly74 I'd suggest a Fender Mustang III. It's one of the lightest amps out there, it sounds good for low volume playing, comes with a footswitch and it will have everything you need (channels, effects, tuner etc) in a small lightweight package. You also can feed it directly to the PA using the cab emulators and have complete control of your volume. This Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Filter500 Posted October 19, 2012 Members Share Posted October 19, 2012 I'd consider a Mesa Mini Rectifier and 1x12. It's a little high on the budget, but a good solution, I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JerEvil Posted October 19, 2012 Members Share Posted October 19, 2012 Originally Posted by Filter500 I'd consider a Mesa Mini Rectifier and 1x12. It's a little high on the budget, but a good solution, I think. Or a Mesa F-50 and 1x12 cab. Comes in a bit less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members '63-Strat Posted October 19, 2012 Members Share Posted October 19, 2012 Peavey Classic 30 is a great choice and will work for a lot of different playing situations and styles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Grayson73 Posted October 19, 2012 Author Members Share Posted October 19, 2012 Many of the people recommended Peavey Classic 30 and many recommended a SS amp. I guess I'll have to try both.How is this for Peavey Classic 30 deal?http://baltimore.craigslist.org/msg/3333151773.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members chrispsullivan Posted October 19, 2012 Members Share Posted October 19, 2012 Originally Posted by Grayson73 Many of the people recommended Peavey Classic 30 and many recommended a SS amp. I guess I'll have to try both. How is this for Peavey Classic 30 deal? http://baltimore.craigslist.org/msg/3333151773.html That is not a fantastic deal, and also I don't think the Vintage 30 is a good match for that amp. Try to find a stock one for $300-$350. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members maggotspawn Posted October 19, 2012 Members Share Posted October 19, 2012 I'd get a GSP 1101 and a small self powered monitor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members linthat22 Posted October 19, 2012 Members Share Posted October 19, 2012 Originally Posted by knucklefux i don't get it. yes, there's a sweet spot where tube amps sound best (and it's usually pretty loud) but that doesn't mean that they sound worse than solid state amps at low volumes. with a classic 30, at least you have to ability to crank it into that sweet spot if you get the opportunity. with a SS amp, you don't. Unless you get a Randall. Otherwise I 100% agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jds22 Posted October 19, 2012 Members Share Posted October 19, 2012 TubePeavey classic 30New Marshall DSL15CSolid stateFender Mustang IIIEnd of thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tlbonehead Posted October 19, 2012 Members Share Posted October 19, 2012 Originally Posted by greg apocalypse Dude, a Peavey Classic 30 is perfect for your situation. way more amp than he needs. Plus, it isn't a true 2-channel amp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tlbonehead Posted October 19, 2012 Members Share Posted October 19, 2012 Originally Posted by SnowStorm I think your confused by what the speaker size is doing to the frequency response. A 10" will be a bit more focused on the low end and more middy and punchy. Punchy like a shotgun blast, it sprays like a a buckshot bullet. 12" are a bit more beaming and straight ahead. They will have a bit bigger bass response. They shoot more like a rifle, long and straight. not really. Dispersion is more about the shape and material of the dust cap, and just as much the shape, style, and angle of the cone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tlbonehead Posted October 19, 2012 Members Share Posted October 19, 2012 Originally Posted by Ricky Bobby This is just dumb. Not even in the realm of reality kind of dumb. Where did you possibly read this and what makes you even begin to think its true? Because I've talked to sound guys about it and have also found it to be true on stage. I've found it to be true some of the time and not true some of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members chrispsullivan Posted October 19, 2012 Members Share Posted October 19, 2012 Originally Posted by tlbonehead way more amp than he needs. Plus, it isn't a true 2-channel amp. Oh God, not this {censored} again. Just because an amp doesn't have separate EQs for the channels doesn't mean it's not a two channel amp. It has separate volumes for each channel, a gain control for the drive channel, and a footswitch that switches between the two channels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tlbonehead Posted October 19, 2012 Members Share Posted October 19, 2012 Originally Posted by Grayson73 Yes, we have a PA system, but I use the amp as my monitor since we don't have any. Vox Valvetronix would be perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mr. Brady Posted October 20, 2012 Members Share Posted October 20, 2012 Perfect amp for this situation is a POD HD with a powered monitor or some other modeling amp that can also send a signal to the PA. The Classic 30 will need to be too loud to sound good. Send a feed to the PA and a adjust your monitor or amp volume for yourself. You can adjust the volume at the amp/monitor for you and the sound guy can keep you quieter in the mains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Grayson73 Posted October 22, 2012 Author Members Share Posted October 22, 2012 What do you think about getting a single channel amp with good cleans and an OD pedal instead? What combo would you recommend if going with this option? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jds22 Posted October 22, 2012 Members Share Posted October 22, 2012 Originally Posted by Grayson73 What do you think about getting a single channel amp with good cleans and an OD pedal instead? What combo would you recommend if going with this option? That's always an option. With the number of OD/Dist pedal your tone choices are endless. Fenders are always good pedal platforms as is the PV Classic 30. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jimwratt Posted October 22, 2012 Members Share Posted October 22, 2012 Don't sleep on the Vox and Tech 21 solid state stuff. Tubes may offer superior sound quality at higher volumes, but I wouldn't think they would be as functional for you now. I would also recommend against by a tube amp as your first amp. When you are still finding your sound and your tone, tube amps are not as optimal an investment when you can get a modeler that will let you try out a variety of sounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 100 watt Posted October 22, 2012 Members Share Posted October 22, 2012 Peavey Clasic 30, if ya gotta have tubes.For SS, I'd agree with Murdoch. A Marshall Valvestate combo would be fine. Not Marshalls finest offering, but good tones are easilly coaxed out of one, and they can be had for a decent price.Another option would be one of the Crate Palominos. Crate gets alot of hate, but those palominos sound pretty damned good for the price. Mark Knopfler loves them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members guitarbilly74 Posted October 22, 2012 Members Share Posted October 22, 2012 Again, I will reemphasize my previous suggestion: Fender Mustang III. I can't think of a better amp for this type of situation. You take your guitar the amp and a cable to the gig and you're ready to go. The amp is also super light and sounds great at low volumes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Kardula Posted October 22, 2012 Members Share Posted October 22, 2012 I'm curious as to why the budget is so high for something like this? What's your current rig? Without knowing more, I'd suggest a mustang from fender since it's probably the best sounding modelling amp i've heard and is good for low volumes. What amp are you currently using that's too loud for a church with 80 people? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fortress55 Posted October 22, 2012 Members Share Posted October 22, 2012 Originally Posted by Grayson73 I'm a beginner electric player looking for a 2-channel amp. I play at church so it's mostly rock tones, like Chris Tomlin and Hillsongs songs. Doesn't matter if it is tube or solid state, but I need the following: 1. Best tone for low volume. I'm always getting complaints that the electric guitar is too loud (room of about 80 people). Is there an amp that has full sounding tone at low volume? 2. 2-channels and foot switchable (one for crunch parts and one for lead parts). 3. Speaker needs to have decent dispersion, so that those directly in front don't hear it super loud and those on the sides barely hear it. I will mic the amp to the FOH to help with this. 4. Sounds good with my Agile AL-3500 (Les Paul style). I will be plugging in directly to the amp and won't be using pedals. 5. Lightweight, since I will be carrying it every week. 6. Money is not an object, but prefer $1000 or less. Am I beyond help? Try the 15W ibanez Head only 300$ and this head is can rival with my 50W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Captain Biscuit Posted October 22, 2012 Members Share Posted October 22, 2012 Have you thought about a Line6 Flextone II/III? Even with the el cheapo footswitch you've got 4 channels to play with, the tone is great even at low volume, the 1x12 versions are pretty lightweight, and there's a great XLR out for running into the PA. You can pick em up for as low as $200 or so, with a floorboard included. Originally Posted by guitarbilly74 Again, I will reemphasize my previous suggestion: Fender Mustang III. I can't think of a better amp for this type of situation. You take your guitar the amp and a cable to the gig and you're ready to go. The amp is also super light and sounds great at low volumes. Awesome choice. Good modelling, light and you can get a basic 2-button footswitch if you don't want to spash out on a floorboard. Just remember - as with any modelling amp - to create your patches at a decent gigging volume. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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