Members HKSblade1 Posted January 6, 2013 Members Share Posted January 6, 2013 Originally Posted by Ovid9 Well, we've allowed them to pretty much rig it that unless they get redistricted its almost impossible to vote them out. We be {censored}ed. We be {censored}ed hard. Not true at all. Vote the {censored}ers out and they are out. Our problem is we are too {censored}ing polarized and partisan. It takes one vote to decide in or out. Politicians used to have to work harder to acquire votes from all sides. Not so much today. Just a few independents and you are in because the partisan support for incumbents have never been higher. Lastly it's just dumb people with the power to vote and not have to make an educated vote. Most of the voters seldom look at any candidates records. It's about party. Stupidity levels as high as they can go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members HKSblade1 Posted January 6, 2013 Members Share Posted January 6, 2013 Originally Posted by Ovid9 Well, we've allowed them to pretty much rig it that unless they get redistricted its almost impossible to vote them out. We be {censored}ed. We be {censored}ed hard. Not true at all. Vote the {censored}ers out and they are out. Our problem is we are too {censored}ing polarized and partisan. It takes one vote to decide in or out. Politicians used to have to work harder to acquire votes from all sides. Not so much today. Just a few independents and you are in because the partisan support for incumbents have never been higher. Lastly it's just dumb people with the power to vote and not have to make an educated vote. Most of the voters seldom look at any candidates records. It's about party. Stupidity levels as high as they can go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sheik_Yerbouti Posted January 6, 2013 Members Share Posted January 6, 2013 Vote out all incumbents. Seek out alternative party/independent candidates. OR, just continue doing what we have been doing and remain stupid enough to bitch about what you VOTED FOR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sheik_Yerbouti Posted January 6, 2013 Members Share Posted January 6, 2013 Vote out all incumbents. Seek out alternative party/independent candidates. OR, just continue doing what we have been doing and remain stupid enough to bitch about what you VOTED FOR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Critical Ninja Posted January 6, 2013 Members Share Posted January 6, 2013 I saw a nice $450 increase in my paycheck because I no longer have to support my drug addict ex-wife. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Critical Ninja Posted January 6, 2013 Members Share Posted January 6, 2013 I saw a nice $450 increase in my paycheck because I no longer have to support my drug addict ex-wife. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sheik_Yerbouti Posted January 6, 2013 Members Share Posted January 6, 2013 Originally Posted by Critical Ninja I saw a nice $450 increase in my paycheck because I no longer have to support my drug addict ex-wife. Critical ninja is critical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sheik_Yerbouti Posted January 6, 2013 Members Share Posted January 6, 2013 Originally Posted by Critical Ninja I saw a nice $450 increase in my paycheck because I no longer have to support my drug addict ex-wife. Critical ninja is critical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members paul88lx Posted January 6, 2013 Members Share Posted January 6, 2013 Forgive my populist ignorance....But why is DC trying to reduce the deficit on our backs when it appears to me that we could stop giving large chunks of cash to the rest of the world? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members paul88lx Posted January 6, 2013 Members Share Posted January 6, 2013 Forgive my populist ignorance....But why is DC trying to reduce the deficit on our backs when it appears to me that we could stop giving large chunks of cash to the rest of the world? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Pepi Posted January 6, 2013 Members Share Posted January 6, 2013 Originally Posted by sleewell The more you have the more you want. being happy with what I have is my goal. Taxes are what they are. other countries pay more than us. I agree that is a good mindset. Was the way I was when I was a young buck. Now, getting close to retirement it pisses me off. You will see someday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Pepi Posted January 6, 2013 Members Share Posted January 6, 2013 Originally Posted by sleewell The more you have the more you want. being happy with what I have is my goal. Taxes are what they are. other countries pay more than us. I agree that is a good mindset. Was the way I was when I was a young buck. Now, getting close to retirement it pisses me off. You will see someday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ron Burgandy Posted January 6, 2013 Members Share Posted January 6, 2013 Originally Posted by paul88lx Forgive my populist ignorance....But why is DC trying to reduce the deficit on our backs when it appears to me that we could stop giving large chunks of cash to the rest of the world? He chunks you're talking about are a drop in the bucket next to the 16 trillion dollar debt It wouldn't make a diff either way. My as well give aid to people that need it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ron Burgandy Posted January 6, 2013 Members Share Posted January 6, 2013 Originally Posted by paul88lx Forgive my populist ignorance....But why is DC trying to reduce the deficit on our backs when it appears to me that we could stop giving large chunks of cash to the rest of the world? He chunks you're talking about are a drop in the bucket next to the 16 trillion dollar debt It wouldn't make a diff either way. My as well give aid to people that need it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members paul88lx Posted January 6, 2013 Members Share Posted January 6, 2013 Originally Posted by Ron Burgandy He chunks you're talking about are a drop in the bucket next to the 16 trillion dollar debt It wouldn't make a diff either way. My as well give aid to people that need it. Fair enough. Being as ignorant as I am on these kinds of issues, are there any no frills, non-political websites that I can check out to see the actual numbers? I really need to get up to speed on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members paul88lx Posted January 6, 2013 Members Share Posted January 6, 2013 Originally Posted by Ron Burgandy He chunks you're talking about are a drop in the bucket next to the 16 trillion dollar debt It wouldn't make a diff either way. My as well give aid to people that need it. Fair enough. Being as ignorant as I am on these kinds of issues, are there any no frills, non-political websites that I can check out to see the actual numbers? I really need to get up to speed on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GREC Posted January 6, 2013 Members Share Posted January 6, 2013 Any guys old enough can remember how rough life was years ago. No one had ipads, iphones, ipods, cable, internet, monster gas guzzlig SUVs & $400 month binary bundling bills.... Many people in the US were just getting by on the very simple things in life... Give me a break Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GREC Posted January 6, 2013 Members Share Posted January 6, 2013 Any guys old enough can remember how rough life was years ago. No one had ipads, iphones, ipods, cable, internet, monster gas guzzlig SUVs & $400 month binary bundling bills.... Many people in the US were just getting by on the very simple things in life... Give me a break Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Stevetemp Posted January 6, 2013 Members Share Posted January 6, 2013 There are many reasons we're in the state we are in. We certainly increased our standard of living and love of cheap technology, without actually increasing our income. In fact quite the opposite. That went hand in hand and can;t really be blamed on politicians. As was said...we keep voting these people in....all so we can feel better about ourselves and say we "win". How many people say they wouldn't vote for 3rd party candidates because they don't want to waste their vote? No...it's not that you don't want to waste it, because you just DID. Your either trying to vote for the media darling, or trying to vote against him. And we have the nerve to blame THEM? I know...then there's Wall Street to deal with. But if we cut off the good ol boys and that flow of money and power, maybe we can start getting back to "of The People" thing that Constitution talks about. I also have to laugh at this Social Security abomination. Similar to "insurance"....insurance was meant for catastrophic events...not doctor's office visits. So the red tape that needs to support that overuse makes it (health care AND insurance) more expensive. Social Security was meant to be a supplemental income, not a singular retirement fund. You are supposed to take care of your own retirement. If people can't put 30 dollars a check into their OWN retirement...too damn bad! Sorry about your lack of money management. So we have the government do it for us. Yippee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Stevetemp Posted January 6, 2013 Members Share Posted January 6, 2013 There are many reasons we're in the state we are in. We certainly increased our standard of living and love of cheap technology, without actually increasing our income. In fact quite the opposite. That went hand in hand and can;t really be blamed on politicians. As was said...we keep voting these people in....all so we can feel better about ourselves and say we "win". How many people say they wouldn't vote for 3rd party candidates because they don't want to waste their vote? No...it's not that you don't want to waste it, because you just DID. Your either trying to vote for the media darling, or trying to vote against him. And we have the nerve to blame THEM? I know...then there's Wall Street to deal with. But if we cut off the good ol boys and that flow of money and power, maybe we can start getting back to "of The People" thing that Constitution talks about. I also have to laugh at this Social Security abomination. Similar to "insurance"....insurance was meant for catastrophic events...not doctor's office visits. So the red tape that needs to support that overuse makes it (health care AND insurance) more expensive. Social Security was meant to be a supplemental income, not a singular retirement fund. You are supposed to take care of your own retirement. If people can't put 30 dollars a check into their OWN retirement...too damn bad! Sorry about your lack of money management. So we have the government do it for us. Yippee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members trey85stang Posted January 6, 2013 Members Share Posted January 6, 2013 it was a tax holiday... I didnt see anyone jumping up and down for joy when it was enacted. But now that it was taken back the sky is falling. We get lucky that SS only went up 2% rather then the {censored}tards in congress just letting our taxes go up by a {censored}load by not doing anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members trey85stang Posted January 6, 2013 Members Share Posted January 6, 2013 it was a tax holiday... I didnt see anyone jumping up and down for joy when it was enacted. But now that it was taken back the sky is falling. We get lucky that SS only went up 2% rather then the {censored}tards in congress just letting our taxes go up by a {censored}load by not doing anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Members Marshredder Posted January 6, 2013 Members Share Posted January 6, 2013 Only thing I noticed in my last paycheck was a 50% pay rise... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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