Members moreyag Posted March 25, 2007 Members Share Posted March 25, 2007 i've got to go with Les Paul. the man has vision and a creativity that few in the "modern era" have. and while adolph rickenbacker may have given birth to the frying pan, Les Paul took it to a new level. GOD BLESS LES Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members HairyScaryMark Posted March 25, 2007 Members Share Posted March 25, 2007 What about the composers of the 2nd Viennese School in the 20th Centuary? They invented an entirely new musical system baring little relation to anything previously done. Don't think their music is mostly very pleasant to listen to though. Fairly ridiculous to suggest any particaulrly well known artist really. Even the most radical artists are still pushing the boundries forward in small steps. Their system is still based around major/minor, western notes, played by ensembles or solo artists on conventional instruments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members syncretism Posted March 26, 2007 Members Share Posted March 26, 2007 Professor Peter Sheleke(sp) satirized classical music with outstanding skill. He invented instruments and came out with songs such as, "Eine Kliene NICHT Music" Peter Schichele's radio show from the 90s, "Schichele Mix", is still played across the country by PRI affiliates. It's still one of the best things ever, imho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members The Pro Posted March 26, 2007 Members Share Posted March 26, 2007 I really can't believe there's not more recognition in this thread for Laurie Anderson. I suspect it's only because there aren't more people aware of the broad body of her work which ranges not only from her innovative live and recorded music in addition to her musical instrument inventiveness but also includes her written and spoken work, books, sculptures, paintings, audio-visual presentations, and more. She ranks with Eno and Kraftwerk very well musically but the broad range of her artistry puts her a step or two ahead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DavyJonesLocker Posted March 31, 2007 Members Share Posted March 31, 2007 Boxcar Willie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members muel Posted March 31, 2007 Members Share Posted March 31, 2007 Peter Schichele's radio show from the 90s, "Schichele Mix", is still played across the country by PRI affiliates. It's still one of the best things ever, imho. I was going to say Peter Shickele, for the most original act in music history - writing several symphonies none of which contain a single original note or phrase, wherein every note and phrase is a quote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members syncretism Posted March 31, 2007 Members Share Posted March 31, 2007 Doh, with a K. After two errors, I can't call it a typo Yeah, that was the main reason I picked John Oswald, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rasputin1963 Posted March 31, 2007 Members Share Posted March 31, 2007 Oh, I'd have to say that Lionel Ritchie is the most original artist of all time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members muel Posted April 1, 2007 Members Share Posted April 1, 2007 Doh, with a K. After two errors, I can't call it a typo Yeah, that was the main reason I picked John Oswald, too. That's OK - I left out the first "c". Just watched "PDQ Bach in Houston: We Have a Problem" again this morning. I think Peter Schickele gets brownie points for all those original instruments. I particularly like the tromboon and the slide whistle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members myshkin Posted April 1, 2007 Members Share Posted April 1, 2007 There's no point me pretending to know about genres of music of which I'm essentially ignorant such as classeical and the various claims of the Mozarts, Bachs, Beethovens, etc so I'll plump for the area of music Iknow most about being broadly music since 1960, and I'd have to choose The Beatles. Kraftwerk being a choice one could make with alot of justification but on the other hand, The Beatles create something like Tomorrow Never Knows out of historically absolutely nowhere, and it being one more direction they delve into rather than thoroughly investigating; such creation of genres being par for the course for them at this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RickTaylor Posted April 5, 2007 Members Share Posted April 5, 2007 IMHO The right question should be, who is the most innovative musician..... "Most" ..."Truly" was not a parameter. Careful with that "diverging" thing; people will begin to suspect you of thinking for yourself. GershwinZappaDebussyCageAylerBob WillsBill MonroeCarl PerkinsStockhausenZornWilliamsGuthrieJobimColtraneRussoloEtcEtcEtc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 60hurts Posted April 6, 2007 Members Share Posted April 6, 2007 Balinese music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dparr Posted April 6, 2007 Members Share Posted April 6, 2007 Tiny Tim was one of a kind! Tiptooooe through the winoooow By the windoooooow, that is where I'll beeeee Come tiptooooe through the tuuuulips with meeeee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Spin Cycle Posted April 6, 2007 Members Share Posted April 6, 2007 Thanks guys, I'm looking up everyone mentioned as we speak, except tiny tim. Edit- also, did anyone bring up Conlon Narcarrow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rudolf von Hagenwil Posted April 6, 2007 Members Share Posted April 6, 2007 There was a most original musician. He was so original that nobody wanted to listen to his music, so he started to think his music only for himself, and sometime he was explaining and singing his thought music to very good friend. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rudolf von Hagenwil Posted April 6, 2007 Members Share Posted April 6, 2007 Of course he wasn't fully happy with this situation. Also over the last thirty-five years, apart from the earnest stuff, he also composed several hundred song he never showed to anyone until recently. He always knew that his music is as good as any of the known stuff, but he decided early in his life to not participate in the circus maximus, but live a nice life with a family and looking at the sea... ... but he changed his mind a couple of months ago, and founded a new band with another forumite of this board! . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members erland_fan Posted April 7, 2007 Members Share Posted April 7, 2007 I think erland definitely is. www.erlandonline.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members KB Gunn Posted April 7, 2007 Members Share Posted April 7, 2007 How about that! Tiny Tim was a southpaw. Or maybe the pic was backwards. I just thought of another original group: Gentle Giant. Do a search on you-tube of Gentle Giant and prepare to be amazed. How incredible it is to see them do that music live in concert on video. I saw them in 1975 in Boston and they were amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dparr Posted April 8, 2007 Members Share Posted April 8, 2007 How about that! Tiny Tim was a southpaw. Or maybe the pic was backwards. I just thought of another original group: Gentle Giant. Do a search on you-tube of Gentle Giant and prepare to be amazed. How incredible it is to see them do that music live in concert on video. I saw them in 1975 in Boston and they were amazing. Yes, Tiny Tim was a southpaw. Gentle Giant is one of the greatest bands ever! :thu: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TIOK Posted April 10, 2007 Members Share Posted April 10, 2007 That's a tough one, and lots of great choices...wasted a ton of time reading this thread! Becuase I'm a guitar player my first thought was Les Paul, because he's an amazing player, and an inventor who shaped my instrument, recording, and a dozen other areas. Maybe that's because my LP is sitting in staring at from accross the room...But I realize I'm focused on the last 70 or so years and "all time" is a long time! It is interesting to ponder what "original" means. And what do we mean by "musician"? The pioneers who made music for many hundreds of years before recording (which has captured maybe the last 100) we know only by their compositions. Origional composers opens up another huge category! HP has invented a lot of stuff to make music. But then guys like Satch, Getze, Miles, Bird, Herby Hancock, Zappa, Jimi (and a really long list of others) impress me because they invented new sounds with an existing instrument. Maybe one definition of "original" would be who's sound you instantly recognize with only one note? Miles, Santana, Garcia... Or is it someone who makes you think about music in completely different ways than you did before? For me, there's my Mom who played Bach and listend to Dylan, and a guy named Jimmy Nadel who infected me with Jazz and forever changed how I hear things. OK I give up, I can't do it! Can't pick just one...but then is that the point? Maybe the real value is in figuring out what "original" means to you and then going out and making some original music Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jackcheez Posted April 11, 2007 Members Share Posted April 11, 2007 "I guess everybody has someplace they draw the line in terms of what "original" means, but you know... unless you personally invented all the musical instruments you use and the scales you compose in, everything is built on the back of something else"This is complete denial of the fact that some artists are just more original than others. I don't accept limitations that easily. A common instrument in the hands of an uncommon artist will yield uncommon results. A couple of my favorites who come to mind are... Ian AndersonFrank Zappa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members techristian Posted April 12, 2007 Members Share Posted April 12, 2007 Let me think of all of the radical musicians from the last 40 years, musicians that completely shifted the musical paradigm in some way. Elvis Presley The Beatles ..........first in heavy studio orchestration for rock n' roll The Rolling Stones The Doors ................a spooky sound of their own Motown productions including Stevie Wonder Donovan ....."Hurdy Gurdy Man" nothing like it back then Bob Dylan Jimi Hendrix ...never heard a guitar like his before Jethro Tull....what a mix of flute and fuzz guitar ! Moody Blues.... nothing like them Emerson Lake & Palmer ..........first to use synths in classical type progressive rock Black Sabbath though not one of my favorites anymore they pushed the limits of volume and fuzz guitar. Led Zeppelin We never heard vocals like that until "Whole Lotta Love" ELO .....Cellos in a rock band ? Bee Gees did they start the whole disco thing? Will Smith "Parents Don't understand" ...Dare we call it music, but at least back then the rapping was in time to the beat. Michael Jackson weird or not , great solid POP sound The first band in the 80's to use the DX7 and gated reverb drum sounds. I'm not sure who that was, but after them everyone was using those sounds for the next 5 years. Pet Shop Boys unique sound of electronic pop. Alanis Morissette Isn't it Ironic that she should sell 6 million copies of this? Lots of dynamics in her first hit. INXS very cool , very different. Nirvana or Pearl Jam started the whole alternative sound. Evanescence lots of dynamics and extremes in sound to keep the listeners awake. System of a DownThey are taking heavy metal in a new pop direction. These are only some of the bands that did and will influence the future destination of what we call "music" I don't think I've seen a mention for King Crimson yet. Yes , yes "21st Century Skitzoid Man" Was Emerson there also? And yes Blue Man Group and yes Craig KRAFTWERK and now Depeche Mode Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RickTaylor Posted April 12, 2007 Members Share Posted April 12, 2007 These are only some of the bands that did and will influence the future destination of what we call "music"Yes , yes "21st Century Skitzoid Man" Was Emerson there also? Lake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members funkymonk77 Posted April 16, 2007 Members Share Posted April 16, 2007 RADIOHEAD( the newer stuff) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members nonchai Posted April 16, 2007 Members Share Posted April 16, 2007 Easy. Andy Partridge from XTC. IF you listen to the XTC Back catalogue you will get an idea of just how many stylistic variations this genius comes up with. And now he has a very experimental CD out - Monstrance - in the free improv vein. Truly an original genius. Same goes for Colin Moulding naturally . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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