Members Help!I'maRock! Posted June 4, 2012 Members Share Posted June 4, 2012 [video=youtube;anCGvfsBoFY] saw this on TGP and thought it could use a repost here. i've never before said that i'm proud to own a certain brand, and i'm not much for brand loyalty. every company has their variances in quality, their miscues, and their controversies. my Taylor 414ce might even be on the lower end of the spectrum visually because it has some streaks in the top. but today, i'm proud to own a Taylor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members soundcreation Posted June 4, 2012 Members Share Posted June 4, 2012 Awesome....! Great video. I'm going to take him at his word. This is the kind of honest and open marketing that just doesn't exist with certain other companies. Lay it out for people. Give them the facts as they stand, and allow consumers to make a choice based on education. I think that nearly everyone..knowing whats really going on will choose to make the ethical choice. I'm the biggest corporate bashing poster on HCEG, but I have huge respect for companies with leaders who DO understand the reality of what's happening on earth and are taking steps to remold their companies to be conscious and proactive about sustainability, and environmentalism. They are a small segment...but growing fast in all areas....it is the future. Spread this video people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bluesnapper Posted June 4, 2012 Members Share Posted June 4, 2012 Brilliant. I'd rather have wood that sounds the same rather than wood that looks the same. I only wish that with all this extra wood around now Taylor guitars started getting a little cheaper It's amazing to think that 100yrs ago people were making desks and panelling rooms in rosewood and now there's not enough left for fingerboards. Something has to be done and it's good to see that Taylor have started. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ihavenofish Posted June 4, 2012 Members Share Posted June 4, 2012 I only wish that with all this extra wood around now Taylor guitars started getting a little cheaper . if the wood was free, a mid end taylor would drop $100 in price at the most. wood is negligable in the total price of a guitar. ive always liked taylors videos. hes just "blunt" and you always learn something new. i didnt realise they actually just wasted trees and left them in the forest. id always imagined the "reject" wood would have just gone to other suppliers with lower colour demands. i guess for ebony, theres a very narrow market. so many ebony fretboards on comercial instruments are dyed these days, i dont think this decision to use the "b grade" logs is relevant at all to the guitar maker / buyer. quite relevant to the forest though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cbh5150 Posted June 4, 2012 Members Share Posted June 4, 2012 Really good stuff there. Thanks, Howie! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sdgails Posted June 4, 2012 Members Share Posted June 4, 2012 I'm going to buy A Taylor as my next guitar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Preacher Posted June 4, 2012 Members Share Posted June 4, 2012 Great video. Respect. Thanks for posting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Texas Noise Factory Posted June 4, 2012 Members Share Posted June 4, 2012 I can respect those ideals. Wish we could see more guitar company presidents have the balls to make a change like that and announce it rather than making a change to their product without any explanation. I think it would go over much smoother amongst the players and critics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members deanmass Posted June 4, 2012 Members Share Posted June 4, 2012 Blown.Away. This guy should run for President. Now, I want to support his company. Brave men with both vision AND the resourses to execute that vision are rare. He is one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RaVenCAD Posted June 4, 2012 Members Share Posted June 4, 2012 Henry J would be rolling over in his grave if the son of a bitch would just die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members stormin1155 Posted June 4, 2012 Members Share Posted June 4, 2012 Good video! Shows that environmental responsibility and capitalism can exist together. Dying is a very viable alternative. The only way one could tell would be by cutting into it or doing a chemical analysis. I doubt that many companies are currently dying ebony. The ebony fretboard blanks I've gotten from Stew-Mac and LMI recently have not been dyed, and they have all been pure jet black. I can still buy pure black ebony billets from my local wood store, but I am also seeing more ebony with coloration. My prediction is that we will see more and more of the colored ebony, and the pure black stuff will demand a premium price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members surpriselunch Posted June 4, 2012 Members Share Posted June 4, 2012 That is beautiful, man. The whole {censored}ing thing; the wood, the man, the message, the company... I cannot wait to have one of these unwanted boards. Bob Taylor ladies and gentleman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jjpistols Posted June 4, 2012 Members Share Posted June 4, 2012 Bob Taylor kicks ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members smorgdonkey Posted June 4, 2012 Members Share Posted June 4, 2012 Great decision about the ebony. Another great thing about Taylors - there aren't any made by slave labour in communist countries. I like both of those things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dmc69 Posted June 4, 2012 Members Share Posted June 4, 2012 It's a good thing Taylor is entrusted with 75% of the legal Camaroonian ebony market. I'd hate for it to become a Brazilian rosewood situation again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Crunchtime Posted June 4, 2012 Members Share Posted June 4, 2012 Great info. It's really sad to hear about such irresponsible waste we have created to feed our first world greed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members genesis3 Posted June 4, 2012 Members Share Posted June 4, 2012 If 2 out of 20 are the jet black stuff, I wonder when they happen upon them if they'll charge more to have it.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Help!I'maRock! Posted June 4, 2012 Author Members Share Posted June 4, 2012 If 2 out of 20 are the jet black stuff, I wonder when they happen upon them if they'll charge more to have it.. undoubtedly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members billybilly Posted June 4, 2012 Members Share Posted June 4, 2012 Why use the ebony at all if it is endangered? At the end of the day, he is contributing to its demise. I realize that if he didn't take it someone would but still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members kayd_mon Posted June 4, 2012 Members Share Posted June 4, 2012 Good video. Makes me wish I liked Taylor guitars more! Anyway, it seems as if he's doing the best he can to both keep the business alive and treat the environment right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members blazingblake Posted June 4, 2012 Members Share Posted June 4, 2012 Thats really cool and awesome that he's doing it that way not many people care like him any more I give respect for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mschafft Posted June 4, 2012 Members Share Posted June 4, 2012 cool vid, kinda moving Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Toadroller Posted June 4, 2012 Members Share Posted June 4, 2012 I'm kind of curious. If Cameroon is the last place to legally supply ebony and the demand is so great, why hasn't the price of black ebony risen to the point where streaky ebony has become an economically viable alternative? We're seeing it become the alternative due to Bob's action as the benevolent monopoly his company seems to be, but I would think market forces should have taken it there sooner. Especially with the global regulations around traceability from seedling to finished product (that would have pleased an Ent) affecting the cost of the product, if not the price from the loggers themselves. Just walking through Home Depot shows how prices help make an economic decision- I'll go with the cheap 2x4s for my project. I wonder what the actual supply is, what its diminish rate is; what the change in price of ebony has been over the last 20-30 years relative to general inflation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members stormin1155 Posted June 4, 2012 Members Share Posted June 4, 2012 ....now if only Taylor could build a guitar that sounded as good as a Martin....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Help!I'maRock! Posted June 4, 2012 Author Members Share Posted June 4, 2012 ....now if only Taylor could build a guitar that sounded as good as a Martin....... i'm still trying to find a Martin that sounds as good as a Martin. i like my Taylor better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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