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  • #46






    Quote Originally Posted by timmyfirst
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    They're impeccably built and sound great but they seem to have no soul or vibe to them




    Ugh this argument. Maybe you just didnt know how to get the tone you wanted out of it. But to say "no soul or vibe" regarding any guitar is just... ugh. There is no such ting as soul or vibe (and if there is it certainly would be out of guitars like suhr, not some run of the mill strat or LP for sure).

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    • #47
      Neither?



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      • #48






        Quote Originally Posted by rock-lobster
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        Ugh this argument. Maybe you just didnt know how to get the tone you wanted out of it. But to say "no soul or vibe" regarding any guitar is just... ugh. There is no such ting as soul or vibe (and if there is it certainly would be out of guitars like suhr, not some run of the mill strat or LP for sure).




        All that fancy music school edumuhcation and they didn't teach you about soul and vibe? No wonder music today sucks.. You need to find yourself a Willie Brown and go hoboing..
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        • #49
          "No soul or vibe" easily translates to "just didn't like it." Nothing wrong with that. They're just trying to give some sort of expression about something that's difficult to describe.
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          • #50






            Quote Originally Posted by RaVenCAD
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            Suhr and Anderson are both trying to capture what Fender has had since 1954.. Personally, I'll take a good Fender over either of them, all day long.




            with their strat/tele models they are. they both do a lot more than that though. i think anderson has some bolt on bigsby stuff that's not fender like at all and suhr makes as many super strat types as they do strats.

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            • #51
              They lack groove and mojo.

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              • #52






                Quote Originally Posted by RaVenCAD
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                All that fancy music school edumuhcation and they didn't teach you about soul and vibe? No wonder music today sucks.. You need to find yourself a Willie Brown and go hoboing..




                Let me translate. I think music can have plenty of soul. A guitar, hell no. It either sounds good for what you do or it doesn't, and in either case it's your call how much soul you put into the music from there. I just can't stand when people say something like "it played and sounded good but had no mojo." IMO if it played and sounded good it's you who has no mojo

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                • #53
                  I've never played a Tom Anderson, but I sure would like to. I have played a bunch of Suhrs, however, and two of them - the 2010 LE and a Standard Carve Archtop were by far the best two guitars I've ever played. Notes just lept out of them, they were effortless to play, super dynamic and expressive, and they sounded absolutely full and gorgeous. Simply flawless. I've played a bunch of Suhrs that didn't click with me at all, even with similar specs, but those two... wow. A friend of my has a Guthrie Govan signature Suhr modern and it's a pretty amazing guitar as well.
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                  • #54






                    Quote Originally Posted by soundcreation
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                    They are very nice guitars but for the prices both of them charge you could get high end Japanese guitars that will embarrass them in my opinion.




                    can you give examples?.... i'm interested in your opinion as to which are the top japanese strats in particular... i've seen you mention momose before yeah?

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                    • #55






                      Quote Originally Posted by rock-lobster
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                      If it played and sounded good, it's you who has no mojo.




                      grammar corrected, QFT.
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                      • #56






                        Quote Originally Posted by smorgdonkey
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                        I don't find that about Suhr but I know what you mean because I found that PRS seems that way to me. It's an intangible that we can't explain as humans I suppose.




                        I agree that no human has ever been able to explain this in any coherent way. I guess that's why I think it's absurd.
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                        • #57






                          Quote Originally Posted by DaleH
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                          Suhr pickups are great.




                          What makes them better than others? Pickups are very easy to replicate so you could take it apart and create the same thing, could you not?
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                          • #58






                            Quote Originally Posted by elsupermanny14
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                            Which do you think is better and why? Let loose!




                            In a blind test with the same amps, etc., you would have a hard time telling the difference IMO.
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                            • #59
                              I've heard the "no soul", "no mojo", "no vibe" comments about these two brands along with other boutique brands on other forums as well. I wonder if it comes down to the "Jack White" theory? He likes a guitar that isn't perfect and requires him to work at playing it.



                              Most of these boutique brands are as close to perfect as humanly possible.....excellent wood selection, quality components, excellent finish work, often have contour cuts and so forth to make them more ergonomic, flawless setups including fret leveling/crowning, etc. Perhaps that perfection takes the "vibe" or whatever out of the instruments for a lot of people?

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                              • #60
                                I own two Suhrs, and I've played a ton of Andersons. I even have Suhr pickups in one parts guitar and I have a set on order for another right now....I dig the SUhr Aesthetic more but they both make great instruments. At the end of the day they are only the tools. You make the music.
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