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  • What would you do; principles or money?

    I don't want this to turn into a political discussion, but more of a gig discussion. Here's the deal; I was offered a gig at a place that bears the name of a certain fellow I generally disagree with. Many others love him and that's just fine, but I turned the gig down. I figured that there might be repercussions if others in my muso community saw that I was playing there. I also imagined that just my luck, there would be protests on the day of my gig. I also wondered how I would feel supporting someone I can't get behind - again if you like him, more power to you, it's all good.

    I know folks that won't play in casinos, or won't play for organized crime and so on. What do you folks think. take the money and run, or put your money where your mouth is? BTW this was for a potential early evening New Year's gig so it was real dough. So far, I have no regrets but I am curious as to what others do, or have done.

  • #2
    Well, being that it is Canadia...take the money, do the gig and forget who's name is on the front of the building in big gold letters...he holds no political sway where you are, fortunately.
    I've gigged for nudist colonies, Hell's Angels Parties, trade unions, corporations...if they pay me, I'm there. I would, however, draw the line at doing a political function for a party I oppose...unless the money was yuuuuuge...
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    • #3
      In the early 1980s, Ronstadt was criticized by music critics for playing concerts in South Africa under apartheid.[146][147][148] She was listed by the U.N. as supporting apartheid by performing there. At the time, she stated, "The last place for a boycott is in the arts", and, "I don't like being told I can't go somewhere."
      I'd rather not have this line in my bio.
      All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident. Arthur Schopenhauer (1788 - 1860)


      • daddymack
        daddymack commented
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        'criticized'...meh...it didn't really hurt her career.

    • #4
      You can just turn down the gig for no reason. But, remember, celebrities take gigs and do commercials for things they don't use or don't believe in. If you consider yourself a "gun for hire" then take the gig and don't worry about it. It's just a job. But if you really have a problem with whatever this person talks about or believes then just tell them you are already booked. Easy peasy nice and easy.


      • #5
        The most lucrative political affiliation in my county -- federally, provincially and locally -- is one that I cannot support. (Hint for Shaster -- they're not currently the government.) Not that they've asked me. I'd play for any of the other parties, again if they asked me.
        All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident. Arthur Schopenhauer (1788 - 1860)


        • #6
          Thanks for the responses. I guess I'm more worried about backlash, than what's left of my principles. I can think of some scenarios where news of my employment at this establishment could cause me to lose gigs with those that are against, umm.... tic tacs. As I said, there are sporadic protests at this venue, and all I need is to be seen on the news, crossing a protest line with my guitar. Not the kind of promo I need. In fact a few years back, I did make the evening news when I played at a labour convention - but labour is okay in my music community, so it was a plus not a minus. Think I'll just leave the gig alone.


          • #7
            It depends on just how much I dislike them.

            For example, I wouldn't play for many political figures here in the US - and this isn't the forum to discuss which ones I would refuse.

            I wouldn't play for an organized hate group rally.

            I wouldn't book something I think would be detrimental to our career and/or reputation. Not on moral ground, but on good business sense.

            I'm sure there are a few others - but I can't think of them now.

            Other than that, I'm in. I've done Casinos, various Religious denominations, Bikers, Nudists, Political rallies, Strip Clubs, and just about everything else. It's a gig, and if I think I can do the gig well, in all likelihood, I'll take it.

            One more thing. There are gigs that were very unpleasant, usually due to the people hiring us or managing the event/club. In those cases if they ask us back, I raise the price quite a bit, so that if it's going to be a bad gig, at least I'll make good money - but more often than not, they refuse to re-book.

            I have my ethics, the bar may be low, but there is a limit.

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