Members the stranger Posted December 17, 2006 Members Share Posted December 17, 2006 Anytime a song is mixed and the vocals trigger audible ducking with the music. -~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members E-money Posted December 17, 2006 Members Share Posted December 17, 2006 Mariah Carey, when she hits that super high note. I'll take ducking any day over that sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members amplayer Posted December 17, 2006 Members Share Posted December 17, 2006 Originally posted by E-money Mariah Carey, when she hits that super high note. While I'm not really a Mariah Carey fan, I coudn't disagree more with you on this one. I think she sounds amazing when she hits those notes that are about an octave above what normal human being sopranos can do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members realtrance Posted December 17, 2006 Members Share Posted December 17, 2006 There was one r&b singer's album I got -- can't remember it, not memorable at all -- where for whatever reason the decision was made to simulate "scratchy record sound" throughout the _entire_ album. Didn't sound realistic, didn't add to the sound, it was like someone had graffiti'd the sound. Horrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members shniggens Posted December 17, 2006 Members Share Posted December 17, 2006 I hate distorted, lo-fi, "megaphone" sounding vocals that are used liberally by the likes of Beck and the Beastie Boys. It sounds like they are "singing" through Saran Wrap, and it makes the hairs on my neck stand on end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members blue2blue Posted December 17, 2006 Members Share Posted December 17, 2006 That would have to be one of the joint efforts from Kenny G and Michael Bolton. I think the French have a phrase for it... La merde de la merde. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Timothy Scags Posted December 17, 2006 Members Share Posted December 17, 2006 Ever hear Yoko Ono sing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cooterbrown Posted December 17, 2006 Members Share Posted December 17, 2006 Pretty much any country music recorded after 1980, with the exception of Dwight Yoakam.The current state of the "art" is as embarrassingly homogenized, hackneyed and dumbed-down as late-60s -early 70s bubblebum pop (i.e. The Archies, Partridge Family, Bobby Sherman, etc.). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rudolf von Hagenwil Posted December 17, 2006 Members Share Posted December 17, 2006 I take a vacuum cleaner anytime over most female operatic soprano. Okay, excluding Maria Callas or Anna Netrebko, not always, but on Anna turning off the sound while listening to Callas without picture. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members blue2blue Posted December 17, 2006 Members Share Posted December 17, 2006 I gotta add a runner-up... "Rock Lobster." I mean... I don't hate the B-fers... I even saw them a couple times. But, damn... that song is the sonic equivalent of seeing Lux Interior's slack white backside one more time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mr. Botch Posted December 17, 2006 Members Share Posted December 17, 2006 I can't stand little children's choruses. I wish Christmas was over for that very reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members blue2blue Posted December 17, 2006 Members Share Posted December 17, 2006 Originally posted by Mr. Botch I can't stand little children's choruses. I wish Christmas was over for that very reason. Yeah... lately I've been listening to the O Brother soundtrack. The first time through I was charmed by the children's chorus on the one song... very effective. So effective, I never need to hear it again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members blackpig Posted December 17, 2006 Members Share Posted December 17, 2006 Anything by Whitney Houston. There is something about her voice that gets to me like fingernails down a blackboard. Oh, she's well able to sing and all that sort of thing - I just can't stand the sound of her voice. A friend of mine who ran a music shop years ago had to leave the room if anyone played a violin. He'd have to get his wife to come out and serve them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members blue2blue Posted December 17, 2006 Members Share Posted December 17, 2006 Originally posted by blackpig Anything by Whitney Houston. There is something about her voice that gets to me like fingernails down a blackboard. Oh, she's well able to sing and all that sort of thing - I just can't stand the sound of her voice. A friend of mine who ran a music shop years ago had to leave the room if anyone played a violin. He'd have to get his wife to come out and serve them. There's not a contemporary oversinger, er, I mean diva, I can stand... Maria, Celine, Christine, Whitney... yonk. I suppose, to some folks, they're the "quality singers" who stand in opposition to your Britney's and Ashlees... and you can see, even sympathize, with the sentiment. But I STILL can't stand the way they sing. What's sad is when some of the classic singers of earlier decades get tempted into showing off their chops in the same fashion. I mean... I thought some of them kinda oversang, back then... But, anyhow, I am SO much more moved by ONE heartfelt phrase than ALL the faux coloratura bravura crap... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members gtrbass Posted December 17, 2006 Members Share Posted December 17, 2006 Any rock record where there is some stupid idiot going "whacka whacka" in he background on a turntable. Incubus is a great example of that. How may decent songs have they jumped the shark with their "turntable guy" jerking off in the background? All of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members John Sayers Posted December 17, 2006 Members Share Posted December 17, 2006 Originally posted by gtrbass Any rock record where there is some stupid idiot going "whacka whacka" in he background on a turntable. Incubus is a great example of that. How may decent songs have they jumped the shark with their "turntable guy" jerking off in the background? All of them. +1 :thu: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Super 8 Posted December 18, 2006 Members Share Posted December 18, 2006 Originally posted by cooterbrown Pretty much any country music recorded after 1980, with the exception of Dwight Yoakam. What? You don't like Big & Rich??? How about the Rednex? You like Cotton-eye Joe, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members the stranger Posted December 18, 2006 Author Members Share Posted December 18, 2006 Originally posted by Super 8 What? You don't like Big & Rich??? How about the Rednex? You like Cotton-eye Joe, right? Junior Brown. http://www.juniorbrown.com/ This guys plays some real country. Hank III does too, but it's not quite normal. More like countrycore. -~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members axe2 2001 Posted December 18, 2006 Members Share Posted December 18, 2006 Gutoral vocals in new metal make me laugh my ass off. I was watching a metal program on VH1 and there was a chick doin it! Sounded just rediculous. Vocal pitch fixing... I dig the band Rascal Flats. They are good musicians and great singers but I heard a song and I could hear that funky perfect harmony goin on. I don't get it, they are great singers!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Anderton Posted December 18, 2006 Members Share Posted December 18, 2006 Kenny G's vibrato. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members veracohr Posted December 18, 2006 Members Share Posted December 18, 2006 Originally posted by axe2 2001 Gutoral vocals in new metal make me laugh my ass off. I was watching a metal program on VH1 and there was a chick doin it! Sounded just rediculous. Here's a couple more bands like that, with female vocalists, just to irritate you (I like them both): http://www.2minutehate.net/http://www.{censored}thefacts.com/ I'm surprised no one has mentioned this: Auto-Tune. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rasputin1963 Posted December 18, 2006 Members Share Posted December 18, 2006 In the last 10 years, in R&B and dance, there has been that tendency to have amelodic, loud soundfx going on in the background, such as sirens, scratch and hyperbass stuff. These FX are as loud in the mix as the vocals and any other element of the ensemble! Bad taste, methinks. Take the recent "Milk Shake" song.. This technique, to me, ruins what could have been a nifty-sounding pop record. (But, granted, I am so damned old-fashioned in my inner models of what comprises a perfect pop record... my notions are positively Brill-esque...). Yes, and pitch-fix and the addition of multiple , synthetic (digital shifted) harmonies in Country Music. It seems to me that these producer's toys were meant to be delicate "secrets" for gently smoothing the sound of a record; only now, in Country especially, they are openly, liberally and flagrantly applied, giving the whole record a COLD, synthetic feeling. And country music-- more than any other genre-- is supposed to sound WARM and sincere. Now, it's anything but. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Billster Posted December 18, 2006 Members Share Posted December 18, 2006 Originally posted by blue2blue There's not a contemporary oversinger, er, I mean diva, I can stand... Maria, Celine, Christine, Whitney... yonk. I suppose, to some folks, they're the "quality singers" who stand in opposition to your Britney's and Ashlees... and you can see, even sympathize, with the sentiment. But I STILL can't stand the way they sing. What's sad is when some of the classic singers of earlier decades get tempted into showing off their chops in the same fashion. I mean... I thought some of them kinda oversang, back then... But, anyhow, I am SO much more moved by ONE heartfelt phrase than ALL the faux coloratura bravura crap... I don't think its the singers - it's the songs. The material is written to be overwrought, produced to the last nth of excluding spontaneity, and packaged in the most banal, predictable way possible. Now that she's done with Bobby Brown, can someone PLEASE put Whitney in a room with Rick Rubin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rasputin1963 Posted December 18, 2006 Members Share Posted December 18, 2006 Originally posted by blue2blue There's not a contemporary oversinger, er, I mean diva, I can stand... Maria, Celine, Christine, Whitney... yonk. I suppose, to some folks, they're the "quality singers" who stand in opposition to your Britney's and Ashlees... and you can see, even sympathize, with the sentiment. But I STILL can't stand the way they sing. What's sad is when some of the classic singers of earlier decades get tempted into showing off their chops in the same fashion. I mean... I thought some of them kinda oversang, back then... But, anyhow, I am SO much more moved by ONE heartfelt phrase than ALL the faux coloratura bravura crap... Correct-i-mundo. Since about 1985 or so, there's been a whole spate of black and white kids who believe "More is more." I agree with Carlos Santana, who has singled out Dionne Warwick as someone who has always known how to embellish. Embellishment is truly an art in itself. For one thing, I've always considered it a great virtue-- and a tribute to the songwriter-- to sing the melody straight once through, before launching off into ripples, wails and faux-orgasmic shrieks of self-indulgent, insincere riffing. Sarah Vaughan and Ella Fitzgerald knew that, and that's why their old "songbook" anthologies are such a joy to listen to today... They'd sing the song straight once... then come back and add their TASTEFUL deviations from the original melody... Shows great humility, a nice trait for an artist to have. And the scatting they did was based upon sound bebop harmonic principles... I'm not sure many of the post-STAR SEARCH/AMERICAN IDOL kiddos know jazz harmony well enough to make intelligent scat choices. And worse, they mostly don't care to LEARN it... the lure of shaking glittery tits 'n' ass on TV is just too strong. Nowadays? When there often was not much real melody to begin with? Geez, count me out. And another painful truth: If you didn't grow up in a Black church, or haven't spent a number of years attending one, you shall be hard-pressed to sound as though you had, in the pop arena... Some things are learnt young... And lastly, as you point out: there is simply no substitute-- none-- for a truly emotional delivery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Lee Knight Posted December 18, 2006 Moderators Share Posted December 18, 2006 This is more engineering: I hate when the drummer's a hat basher so the enginner / mixer gates the snare and eq's it bright as he can. Then everytime the snare hits you hear a wash of hat that more resembles accidentilly calling a fax number. Boom WhssshhhhBoom -boomWhssshhh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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