Members scolfax Posted July 5, 2009 Members Share Posted July 5, 2009 A friend played me a Creed song the other day and classified it as "Alternative" Rock. I thought it was just straight-up pop/rock. To me, early R.E.M = Alternative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tim gueguen Posted July 5, 2009 Members Share Posted July 5, 2009 Just another case of how genre terms often become meaningless with age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Doctor Morbius Posted July 5, 2009 Members Share Posted July 5, 2009 It can't be classified at Alternative if the majority of the listening public listens to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ShuGAZER Posted July 5, 2009 Members Share Posted July 5, 2009 Yeah, Creed is hardly what I would call "alternative" rock. "Alternative" rock encompasses everything from punk, post-punk, new wave, goth, darkwave, shoegaze, dreampop, janglepop, Britpop, indie-rock, post-rock or anything derived from and/or influenced by the aforementioned sub-genres. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members darkcheef Posted July 5, 2009 Members Share Posted July 5, 2009 I think that classifying a band is dumb, then that means that when the band wants to play something else then people think they are selling out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ouzhewen Posted July 5, 2009 Members Share Posted July 5, 2009 Yeah, how alternative can the mainstream be? If you are mainstream, then by definition, you can't be alternative.. Unless I'm missing something here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cassette Posted July 5, 2009 Members Share Posted July 5, 2009 really, once Nirvana and the other grunge bands got sort of big alternative really stopped meaning anything. Sort of like indie music. Once Indie bands got on major labels, the designation "okay, this is indie, this isn't indie" got really blurred as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Dougie.Douglas Posted July 5, 2009 Members Share Posted July 5, 2009 I always thought that Alternative music was a sub genre of Indie... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cbh5150 Posted July 5, 2009 Members Share Posted July 5, 2009 "Alternative" to me was music that never got heard on mainstream radio. That label died the second that it became an "actual" genre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jbiggs1 Posted July 5, 2009 Members Share Posted July 5, 2009 there are so many genres i can't keep up....they need to make a genre dictionary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Grantus Posted July 5, 2009 Members Share Posted July 5, 2009 Creed is not alternative Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members LR Weizel Posted July 5, 2009 Members Share Posted July 5, 2009 Well "Alternative Rock" is a useful term as it describes any rock music that's not the generic classic rock or modern cock rock. That's the type of rock I prefer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members LaXu Posted July 5, 2009 Members Share Posted July 5, 2009 Spotify's radio feature has an "Alternative" option but anything it plays is anything but alternative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cassette Posted July 5, 2009 Members Share Posted July 5, 2009 I always thought that Alternative music was a sub genre of Indie... alternative was indie before indie was called indie. If a band like REM started today they'd be called indie, not alternative. Now alt rock has moved on to mean more modern hard rock yeah its all a bit ridiculous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Dissy Posted July 6, 2009 Members Share Posted July 6, 2009 I think that classifying a band is dumb, then that means that when the band wants to play something else then people think they are selling out. Have fun describing music without genres. Anyways, at least it isn't the dreaded Alternative Metal, which generally just seems to be rock that isn't very tuneful, and is kinda heavy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members songsforbears Posted July 6, 2009 Members Share Posted July 6, 2009 "Emo" is the same way now. It used to be a very specific genre of music. Now just about everything is "emo." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members clay sails Posted July 6, 2009 Members Share Posted July 6, 2009 When I was cutting my teeth as a young buck, "alternative" meant groups like the Pet Shop Boys, the Cure, Tears for Fears, Oingo Boingo, etc. It was a term for New Wave Brit pop mainly. Then 70s freedom rock morphed into "New Country", rap and new R&B somehow came to dominate the charts, a series of teenie bopper "Divas" came to be known as "pop", and I grew too annoyed with the Ticketmaster and endless car commercials featuring my favorite bands to bother with most music in general. (In short, I became a grumpy old man sometime in my mid twenties.) I started making my own music. To me, Creed is totally pop rock, and the only "alternatives" to crap pop comes from a few emo bands like the Shins, and a whole host of musicians operating outside of the mainstream music machine, many of whom I've never heard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members songsforbears Posted July 6, 2009 Members Share Posted July 6, 2009 from a few emo bands like the Shins Haha, really? You couldn't get your totally incorrect "emo" classification anywhere except right after my post about totally incorrect "emo" classifications? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TheFigurehead Posted July 6, 2009 Members Share Posted July 6, 2009 alternative was indie before indie was called indie. If a band like REM started today they'd be called indie, not alternative. Now alt rock has moved on to mean more modern hard rockyeah its all a bit ridiculous Agreed... If you want to get specific (and extremely subjective), I'd call R.E.M. (along with their peers like Guadalcanal Diary) Jangle Pop... but some would argue "College Rock". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cap'n'Budda Posted July 6, 2009 Members Share Posted July 6, 2009 A friend played me a Creed song the other day and classified it as "Alternative" Rock. I thought it was just straight-up pop/rock. To me, early R.E.M = Alternative. "Alternative" really means "not as good as whatever we're trying to be the alternative to". When you find a band that's "alternative", but you're not sure what they're trying to be the alternative to, well then you've found the bottom of the musical barrel. Congrats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Grantus Posted July 6, 2009 Members Share Posted July 6, 2009 "Alternative" really means "not as good as whatever we're trying to be the alternative to". When you find a band that's "alternative", but you're not sure what they're trying to be the alternative to, well then you've found the bottom of the musical barrel. Congrats Yeah, because mainstream rock and pop these days is such quality stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cap'n'Budda Posted July 6, 2009 Members Share Posted July 6, 2009 Yeah, because mainstream rock and pop these days is such quality stuff. That's the point - it's pretty hard to be one notch worse, and when you pull it off you've really accomplished something, at least in a manner of speaking. The bottom of the barrel is a journey, not a destination Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Angry Tele Posted July 6, 2009 Members Share Posted July 6, 2009 'Alternative ' would be a good name for an indie band. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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