Members DenverDave Posted March 19, 2007 Members Share Posted March 19, 2007 I've owned both and they are both great guitars. I voted for the Xaviere because of the edge in pickups and the lighter weight. But they measure up to each other really well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Brewski Posted March 19, 2007 Members Share Posted March 19, 2007 I voted Agile - it's what I know the X's look interestig but I'm not sure I like the metal embelm on the headstock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members nevermind Posted March 19, 2007 Members Share Posted March 19, 2007 Technically no they arent " The 700's use an OEM version of our Fat Paf pickups-"In industry language this is saying the pups are a cheap oem piece that slightly resembles a model GFS sells. OEM Fat PAF sounds like a PC way of saying "the cheapest {censored} artec has" to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members zeegler Posted March 19, 2007 Members Share Posted March 19, 2007 I had the same pickup issue. My XV-500 supposedly had GFS pickups. They sounded {censored}ty, so I took 'em out and put Duncans in. I have bought lots of GFS pickups, and they all have GFS embossed into the bottom. The ones in my Xaviere didn't. Apart from that, I am still enamored by my Xaviere. It's the {censored}!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members outtahear Posted March 19, 2007 Members Share Posted March 19, 2007 For some they might be "adequate". My biggest gripe is they were advertised to be GFS fat pafs. They were not branded GFS, they were made with very cheap parts and sound very much like a stock epiphone pup. Now if these were GFS I don't see what the hype is about. In all honesty with all the glowing reviews of the GFS pups I have serious doubts that the pups that came in my guitar were GFS. Just ordered replacements for my 1050 pearlfront. Checked the stock pickups, and 'voila.... This explains why these sounded nothing like the Fat PAF reviews, and weren't working out w/my amp setups. The website clearly states that the guitar I paid for comes with "Genuine. critically acclaimed, GFS FAT PAFs". Really not happy about this...I e-mailed Jay, we'll see what happens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Caesar Posted March 19, 2007 Members Share Posted March 19, 2007 Just ordered replacements for my 1050 pearlfront. Checked the stock pickups, and 'voila.... This explains why these sounded nothing like the Fat PAF reviews, and weren't working out w/my amp setups. The website clearly states that the guitar I paid for comes with "Genuine. critically acclaimed, GFS FAT PAFs". Really not happy about this...I e-mailed Jay, we'll see what happens I'll be interested in the response you get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Norcal_GIT_r Posted March 19, 2007 Members Share Posted March 19, 2007 I'd like too know what Kurt says also.Maybe he'll drop in here and post.It would be an upstanding move on his part too send us the advertised pickups for our guitars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Norcal_GIT_r Posted March 19, 2007 Members Share Posted March 19, 2007 I have a feeling these are the pups that were installed into our guitars.http://store.guitarfetish.com/gopafhumapab.html These and the pups I got in my guitar are not anything like a PAF at all construction wise or tonaly. Not even a hot PAF would have a 14k bridge..Sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ramshackle Posted March 19, 2007 Members Share Posted March 19, 2007 This explains why these sounded nothing like the Fat PAF reviews, and weren't working out w/my amp setups.The website clearly states that the guitar I paid for comes with "Genuine. critically acclaimed, GFS FAT PAFs". Really not happy about this...I e-mailed Jay, we'll see what happens That's one of the more expensive shelltop models too right? You would think that one of the Xaviere's which used to sell at 800 - 1000 dollars would have the more expensive pups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members outtahear Posted March 19, 2007 Members Share Posted March 19, 2007 Yeah...you'd think.... I'm a bit miffed about it actually...bought the guitar in part because I'd heard so much good things about the Fat PAFs. A LOT of my customers were knocked out by the guitar,(got it out on a stand) but balked @ the pickups. These are L.A. area pros as well-who'd probably now slag the GFS pickups they thought they heard..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members outtahear Posted March 19, 2007 Members Share Posted March 19, 2007 Just got this from Jay: John- Yeah when we commited to the current line of Xaviere's we had ONLY those fairly generic looking version of the Fat Pafs- IN the 3 years since we've upgraded them 6 times and tooled up for our own baseplates, bobbins and polepieces. Just send them back with a note and I'm more than happy to send you a brand new retail set of Fat Pafs- Since we're blowing so many of these out with the financial help of our factory- there's no feasible way to swap out the pickups- and our ads are accurate- Version 1 IS a Fat Paf, just not nearly as good as the new versions Jay Gotta love that.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DeathCrow Posted March 19, 2007 Members Share Posted March 19, 2007 Just got this from Jay: John- Yeah when we commited to the current line of Xaviere's we had ONLY those fairly generic looking version of the Fat Pafs- IN the 3 years since we've upgraded them 6 times and tooled up for our own baseplates, bobbins and polepieces. Just send them back with a note and I'm more than happy to send you a brand new retail set of Fat Pafs- Since we're blowing so many of these out with the financial help of our factory- there's no feasible way to swap out the pickups- and our ads are accurate- Version 1 IS a Fat Paf, just not nearly as good as the new versionsJay Gotta love that.... Well thats a nice gesture and all but do I really want to have to tear my guitar apart and wait 2 weeks for new pickups? Jeez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BlueTimber Posted March 19, 2007 Members Share Posted March 19, 2007 Is an Agile AL 3000 the right shape to put on a bigsby? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Caesar Posted March 19, 2007 Members Share Posted March 19, 2007 Well thats a nice gesture and all but do I really want to have to tear my guitar apart and wait 2 weeks for new pickups? Jeez It seems like a reasonable soution. I guess they could just verify that you bought the guitar and ship the new replacements without requiring the originals returned. I guess this is a way to dissuade you from actually doing it. Still, it seems really dumb to build up the pups on the website only to ship an inferior/outdated product. It's not a good way to manage expectations, and it seems a bit sneaky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Norcal_GIT_r Posted March 19, 2007 Members Share Posted March 19, 2007 It's a nice gesture but if he wanted too do it right he wouldn't ask for the originals back. My guess would be he's not concerned about retaining customers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Caesar Posted March 19, 2007 Members Share Posted March 19, 2007 It's a nice gesture but if he wanted too do it right he wouldn't ask for the originals back.My guess would be he's not concerned about retaining customers. Why do you think he's not interested in retaining customers? This thread, although off topic from the original post, seems like it would stop not only repeat customers but also new customers from buying the guitars. I doubt we'd get an "official" answer to this question in this thread. I feel bad that I talked up the guitars. Now I feel crappy for doing so. It's a shame because I really enjoy playing the guitar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members zeegler Posted March 19, 2007 Members Share Posted March 19, 2007 I'd send mine back, but I think I threw them in the trash. I'm not kidding either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members linthat22 Posted March 19, 2007 Members Share Posted March 19, 2007 I voted agile (even though the pickups suck in them). Good wood, etc, etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members stanfield Posted March 20, 2007 Members Share Posted March 20, 2007 Agile.I find Xaviere LPs hideous. never played either, but i agree with this. it looks like a woman with too thin of a waste. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Caesar Posted March 20, 2007 Members Share Posted March 20, 2007 I'd send mine back, but I think I threw them in the trash. I'm not kidding either. You should e-mail them and get replacements anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dcindc Posted March 20, 2007 Members Share Posted March 20, 2007 Well thats a nice gesture and all but do I really want to have to tear my guitar apart and wait 2 weeks for new pickups? Jeez yes you do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Choag Posted March 20, 2007 Members Share Posted March 20, 2007 I think Sam Ash on sunset only charges like $40. Not too bad, but yes still more than Im sure a little local place in the midwest per se, would charge. I'm not big on going to the hassle of changing pickups (don't know how to solder and local techs in Los Angeles charge through the nose) so this is a big complaint for me. I was counting on real GFS's in there. It's strange that it has taken this long for this to come out! You would think that of all the Xavieres that have been sold on this forum someone would have changed the pups by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Nephilim-777 Posted March 20, 2007 Members Share Posted March 20, 2007 The AL-3000 has P90s Perhaps the older ones did. The newest AL-3000's have two Alnico V humbucker pickups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ChihliDog Posted March 20, 2007 Members Share Posted March 20, 2007 Wow, I'm very disappointed in the info in this thread. I like my X, and I think the pickups sound good, so maybe I got a real set of GFS ones, I dont know. But I DO know that after this bit of disinfo, for lack of a better term, I wont be reccomending them to anyone anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dcindc Posted March 20, 2007 Members Share Posted March 20, 2007 :Originally Posted by dcindc The AL-3000 has P90sPerhaps the older ones did. The newest AL-3000's have two Alnico V humbucker pickups. I meant mine, the one I was comparing, not all of them. And you can't get them that way anymore, and I just sold mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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