Members shinsengumi Posted January 13, 2011 Members Share Posted January 13, 2011 The guy cutting out a body on the jigsaw blew my mind - no goggles, no gloves, and fingertips getting mere millimetres from the blade - wow! Who needs CNC machines :-D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members hecticone Posted January 13, 2011 Members Share Posted January 13, 2011 And not a single one of those guitars were identical. I have had the luck to play a lot of older instruments some were fabulous and some were turds. One thing about the cnc process everything is identical except the different pieces of wood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Elias Graves Posted January 13, 2011 Members Share Posted January 13, 2011 My dad wore the same pants. EG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members linusâ„¢ Posted January 13, 2011 Members Share Posted January 13, 2011 My dad wore the same pants. EG if you can still find them i bet you could sell em on tgp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Elias Graves Posted January 13, 2011 Members Share Posted January 13, 2011 Well, OK, probably not the same pair, but just like those. EG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Elias Graves Posted January 13, 2011 Members Share Posted January 13, 2011 if you can still find them i bet you could sell em on tgp. I have his WWII Army coat. Close enough? EG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members linusâ„¢ Posted January 13, 2011 Members Share Posted January 13, 2011 I have his WWII Army coat. Close enough? EG tone was in the pants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Elias Graves Posted January 13, 2011 Members Share Posted January 13, 2011 EG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members deafinoneear Posted January 13, 2011 Members Share Posted January 13, 2011 Even though I don't particularly like Fenders, that brought such a smile to my face that I'm good for the day. Thanks man! And not a single one of those guitars were identical. I have had the luck to play a lot of older instruments some were fabulous and some were turds. One thing about the cnc process everything is identical except the different pieces of wood. One thing about the CNC process isn't so much that they're identical, the focus is that there's consistency. It's like McDonalds-- no matter where you go in America (or most other countries for that matter), you know that the Big Mac you order is going to taste exactly the same as the Big Mac you got back home. There's something to be said about that. The whole introduction of the CNC process has brought fantastic process standardization to guitar manufacturing, so much so that tolerances can be a lot tighter and you don't have to higher more expensive, higher skilled labor to make it. This is why we can buy an Xavier guitar for $240 with the best tonewoods and find (for the most part) and incredibly made guitar, much more than you could have got from China 20 years ago. It takes the skill out of precision. Now, that's not to say that you can't get better results with a skilled craftsman. I would always want a guitar built by hand over one built by machine, but then again my wallet isn't big enough for more than my Heritage, so the CNC brings with it a higher level of quality to so many more musicians across the world. I'm sure Fender plopped out just as many turds as unicorns, but I bet those unicorns were fantastic. I also bet that some of those turds are currently on the market for $20,000. lol collectors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members LesPaulFetish Posted January 13, 2011 Members Share Posted January 13, 2011 That was great. My impressions: Saw operator is not a job that you want to show up for with a hangover. Paint tech not wearing a mask. People working shirtless. 1959 was truly a different world.Really was... I wonder where some of those Strats are now? Anyway, sweet find man thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ashtray Posted January 13, 2011 Members Share Posted January 13, 2011 Those were the days! Women in dresses sanding instruments by hand, guys walking around with no shirts on, no concerns about safety or health. And I wish Fender would still use the same QC procedures - "All instruments must be setup and played by a sweaty shirtless man - instrument held close to body." Next time someone complains that guitars these days leave the factory without a decent setup, I'll offer them the alternative! hahaha Gotta think - southern California, summertime, no AC, bad smog. Must have been great working there. (I know it's just a snapshot in time - but did you notice everyone was WORKING? Try to take a video now of any factory or office (office! hahaha) where everyone is working at the same time! Heck, you'd probably capture more people on Facebook or HCEG Forum, or texting, than doing what they're supposed to. Now, what was I supposed to be doing instead of posting this??? hahaha) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members r0bo01 Posted January 13, 2011 Members Share Posted January 13, 2011 fascinating! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Kid Klash Posted January 13, 2011 Members Share Posted January 13, 2011 Frikkin' incredible. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ashasha Posted January 13, 2011 Members Share Posted January 13, 2011 I'm sure Fender plopped out just as many turds as unicorns, but I bet those unicorns were fantastic. I also bet that some of those turds are currently on the market for $20,000. lol collectors.I always thought that a lot of the relic fascination came down to the turd factor. I mean if you find a great playing and amazing sounding guitar back then you're going to play the absolute {censored} out of it. If it's a turd chances are it would end up sitting in a case somewhere and be in mint condition at this point. My point being is that the relic'd guitar was a great guitar to begin with and has next to nothing with how it looks after decades of use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members soundcreation Posted January 13, 2011 Members Share Posted January 13, 2011 ... and yet, the products were better and Americans had jobs.. Maybe OSHA is to blame for the current economic toilet we're all sitting in?Loved the video! No...it's pretty much just greedy rich people and laziness on the part of the rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members soundcreation Posted January 13, 2011 Members Share Posted January 13, 2011 Some companies still build more or less like that.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BlackCat Posted January 14, 2011 Members Share Posted January 14, 2011 The guy is Leo. Awesome! I'm going to start calling him "uncle Leo" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Doctor49 Posted January 14, 2011 Members Share Posted January 14, 2011 No...it's pretty much just greedy rich people and laziness on the part of the rest. this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members deafinoneear Posted January 14, 2011 Members Share Posted January 14, 2011 I always thought that a lot of the relic fascination came down to the turd factor. I mean if you find a great playing and amazing sounding guitar back then you're going to play the absolute {censored} out of it. If it's a turd chances are it would end up sitting in a case somewhere and be in mint condition at this point. My point being is that the relic'd guitar was a great guitar to begin with and has next to nothing with how it looks after decades of use. That's a really good point that I hadn't thought about. Deeeep maaaaan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Emory Posted January 14, 2011 Members Share Posted January 14, 2011 No cnc, no Osha.... no shirts.... my god SKILLS!!! Did notice many were latinos.... what do they think, California is 'Merican. Los Angeles, San Francisco, yeah dem be English words!But great videoBTW, take a look at Ovation factory making my VXT (well, coulda been). That is hand built. Noticed guy doing sunbursts didn't have a mask on either. Sadly, these are discontinued. Not enough of you (plus difficult to find) bought these honeys. I will stack mine up against any guitar. Best I've ever played by a good margin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members axegrinder Posted January 14, 2011 Members Share Posted January 14, 2011 okay now that was awesome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members kayd_mon Posted January 14, 2011 Members Share Posted January 14, 2011 Loved the video! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jrockbridge Posted January 14, 2011 Members Share Posted January 14, 2011 Some companies still build more or less like that.. +1 For some reason, many people seem to think that all guitars are now made by CNC. In the USA, yes, most guitar factories use CNC. Yet, USA guitars still include a lot of hands-on work...especially in the last stages of completing the guitar. CNC machines are just tools in the process and NOT magic bullets. If CNC automatically resulted in consistent guitars, like so many people seem to believe, we'd hear nothing but great stories about Gibson USA products. By the way, I like my Gibson guitars. I like my USA Fender Strat too! I wonder if the Korean, Chinese, Japanese and other factories that build guitars by hand are safer than the Fender factory in 1959? I enjoyed the video! Thanks for sharing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members kayd_mon Posted January 14, 2011 Members Share Posted January 14, 2011 +1 For some reason, many people seem to think that all guitars are now made by CNC. In the USA, yes, most guitar factories use CNC. Yet, USA guitars still include a lot of hands-on work...especially in the last stages of completing the guitar. CNC machines are just tools in the process and NOT magic bullets. If CNC automatically resulted in consistent guitars, like so many people seem to believe, we'd hear nothing but great stories about Gibson USA products. By the way, I like my Gibson guitars. I like my USA Fender Strat too! I wonder if the Korean, Chinese, Japanese and other factories that build guitars by hand are safer than the Fender factory in 1959? I enjoyed the video! Thanks for sharing! I thought that the Asian imports were largely machine-made, and the sticker on the back of my Epiphone SG was highly inaccurate when it said "hand-made in China." They really are hand-made? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Brendan Posted January 14, 2011 Members Share Posted January 14, 2011 I think that spray setup involves a a very big fan sucking up the spray and fumes. The latest vids of Gibson show a similar arrangement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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