Members twotimingpete Posted April 19, 2011 Members Share Posted April 19, 2011 I got this red fender standard telecaster from a forum member. I think it's a 2009. These are great guitars. He also gave me this wilkinson 3 saddle bridge. I figured I'd record a bit of before and after sound samples to see if I could figure out what the differences are between the bridges, if any. Everything but the bridges is the same, including distance from strings to pickups. The pod studio preset is exactly the same between every clip. There are no differences in EQ or string gauge, etc. Everything is the same. With a few minutes of work, this became this. In both cases the intonation is a bit off, with bridge swapping going on I wasn't in a rush to spend time setting it up. Here are three sound clips. All of them start with a gently strummed C chord, a less-gently strummed C octave chord, and then like a minute of random {censored}ing around. Since it's common wisdom that 3 saddle bridges sound sooo much more vintage tele than 6 saddle, I figured I'd let you guys call it since it should be so obvious. And hell, maybe it IS obvious. I have an opinion but I'm not saying what it is just yet. Which one(s) are 3 saddle and which one(s) are 6 saddle? Each bridge is represented by at least one of the following links. edit: I'll make it a bit easier since leaving it so open isn't as fun. Only one of the clips is 3 saddle. Sample A: link Sample B: link Sample C: link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bjcarl Posted April 19, 2011 Members Share Posted April 19, 2011 Nice clips... I'm thinking "a" and "b" are the 3-saddle, and "c" is the original bridge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members twotimingpete Posted April 19, 2011 Author Members Share Posted April 19, 2011 Thanks I'll make it a bit easier since leaving it so open isn't as fun. Only one of the clips is 3 saddle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ExiledCrow Posted April 19, 2011 Members Share Posted April 19, 2011 They all sound tele-rific to me. Different? Yes. Better/worse? No preference really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DonK Posted April 19, 2011 Members Share Posted April 19, 2011 I don't profess to know which is which, but I liked the sound of B the best. A sounded raspy, C seemed smoother/thicker than B, as if you were adding a pinch more gain or drive. For the record, I've never been a member of the Eric Johnson, "Bro...put those vintage trem springs back in, you're killing my tone", club (I actually read an interview with him where he talked about the difference trem springs make regarding tone, and for all I know he may be right). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members twotimingpete Posted April 19, 2011 Author Members Share Posted April 19, 2011 The tone is an emulated ac30 in pod farm -- I saved the preset, so there are no difference in gain, and the volume/tone onboard the guitar are dimed in every one. Perceived differences in loudness/gain I would attribute to how hard I was hitting the thing, I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bsman Posted April 19, 2011 Members Share Posted April 19, 2011 For the record, I've never been a member of the Eric Johnson, "Bro...put those vintage trem springs back in, you're killing my tone", club (I actually read an interview with him where he talked about the difference trem springs make regarding tone, and for all I know he may be right). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DaleH Posted April 19, 2011 Members Share Posted April 19, 2011 B for brass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Badside Posted April 19, 2011 Members Share Posted April 19, 2011 I don't know which is which, but I much prefer A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DonK Posted April 19, 2011 Members Share Posted April 19, 2011 Funny! What color is that Tele in your avatar - looks awesome. At first I though Lake Placid Blue, but I can't tell for sure if its a metallic color. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members twotimingpete Posted April 19, 2011 Author Members Share Posted April 19, 2011 I think it's daphne blue, LPB is nowhere near that bright and greenish unless the photo was doctored or something! btw I added a poll option so we can see if the forum in general gets it right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bsman Posted April 19, 2011 Members Share Posted April 19, 2011 It IS LPB, and rather metallic, at that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DonK Posted April 19, 2011 Members Share Posted April 19, 2011 I think it's daphne blue, LPB is nowhere near that bright and greenish unless the photo was doctored or something! btw I added a poll option so we can see if the forum in general gets it right. On the subject of avatars - since I already weighed in on the bridge saddle part - I've been meaning to ask you for a long time who that is in yours. I want to say Barbara Hershey when she was younger.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members twotimingpete Posted April 19, 2011 Author Members Share Posted April 19, 2011 On the subject of avatars - since I already weighed in on the bridge saddle part - I've been meaning to ask you for a long time who that is in yours. I want to say Barbara Hershey when she was younger.... it's sophia bush, bitch! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members captcoolaid Posted April 19, 2011 Members Share Posted April 19, 2011 C seems chimyer tome so I went with c. Just sounds like the brass from the compensated saddles to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members danswon Posted April 19, 2011 Members Share Posted April 19, 2011 why are you saying 5 saddles? it's clearly 6!? i think A & C are the 6 steel saddles, and i think B is 3-saddles because brass would be a bit warmer they all sound good though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members twotimingpete Posted April 20, 2011 Author Members Share Posted April 20, 2011 why are you saying 5 saddles? it's clearly 6!? i think A & C are the 6 steel saddles, and i think B is 3-saddles because brass would be a bit warmerthey all sound good though I have no idea, I just say 5 instead of 6, over and over, and I have no idea why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BoneNut Posted April 20, 2011 Members Share Posted April 20, 2011 Have no idea but thanks very much for taking the time to do that and post it.I voted B just because it was the sound I liked most. BTW.. maybe it's just a coincidence but none of the tonewood, everything makes a big difference, I have pro ears, scientific proof, I have 360 years experience in field, guys have shown up on this thread. Damn, I wonder why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members caveman Posted April 20, 2011 Members Share Posted April 20, 2011 It has to be A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Alex_SF Posted April 20, 2011 Members Share Posted April 20, 2011 Haven't listened yet, but was the "before" clip done with a brand-new set of strings just like I presume the "after" clip was? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MyEmergency Posted April 20, 2011 Members Share Posted April 20, 2011 The suspense is killing me lol, post which is which... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members reverberlayed Posted April 20, 2011 Members Share Posted April 20, 2011 I chose b because it more mellow sounding. At least on my iPhone earbuds. I dig the tones, hence why I like teles so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members xStonr Posted April 20, 2011 Members Share Posted April 20, 2011 A is twangedelic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members vintage clubber Posted April 20, 2011 Members Share Posted April 20, 2011 I've gotten to the point that I prefer the 3 saddle both in sound and looks. I will leave the six saddle on my frankentele though, but my other 3 teles all have the 3 saddles... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JimboJ Posted April 20, 2011 Members Share Posted April 20, 2011 Haven't listened yet, but was the "before" clip done with a brand-new set of strings just like I presume the "after" clip was? This. When you say "everything" is the same, that has to mean the strings are the same. Or at the very least, all were recorded with new strings. Recording A sounds twangier, but is it the bridge or newer strings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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