Members bsman Posted February 22, 2012 Members Share Posted February 22, 2012 This seems like a false analogy. It most definitely is. Micarta (which is actually composed of linen and phenolic resin) and other fiber/epoxy composite materials have been used for decades (since 1910 in the case of micarta) for a lot of fairly demanding applications, such as knife handles, electric insulators, etc. They are dimensionally stable, strong and resistant to water and many other solvents. The only reason to dislike it is because it is different or non-traditional for guitar fretboards -- there is no functional or aesthetic rationale for that reaction... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bbreaker Posted February 22, 2012 Members Share Posted February 22, 2012 Them why not wait until you've actually played baked maple of Richlite or whatever before you make proclamations regarding their quality? I've played tons of Gibson guitars.I've owned tons of Gibson guitars.If the funds are available, I'm not interested in Gibson guitars these days.It could change but I'm leaning more towards Teye; McInturff, PRS, Trussart and Rickenbacker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bsman Posted February 22, 2012 Members Share Posted February 22, 2012 I'm not interested in current Gibsons, but it has naught to do with fretboard woods, etc. Rather, I am not interested in paying the salary of a certain individual... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bbreaker Posted February 22, 2012 Members Share Posted February 22, 2012 ok fine. your preference for endangered woods is no longer viable, regardless of how companies come to their usage. Endangered woods are used today.It's just not as frequently as it used to be.It's not illegal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bbreaker Posted February 22, 2012 Members Share Posted February 22, 2012 Kramer used a composite bowling ball like material on the fretboards of their metal neck guitars in the early going. It was a viable substance. They used it to be different....not because their rosewood and ebony was confiscated by the feds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Help!I'maRock! Posted February 22, 2012 Members Share Posted February 22, 2012 Endangered woods are used today.It's just not as frequently as it used to be.It's not illegal. perhaps you'd like to tell us all how many instruments made after 1992 you have made from Brazilian Rosewood? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bbreaker Posted February 22, 2012 Members Share Posted February 22, 2012 perhaps you'd like to tell us all how many instruments made after 1992 you have made from Brazilian Rosewood? I think only 1 guitar. I played this korina McCarty w/Brazilian fretboard and liked it. If I like it and can afford it, I'll buy it. There's lots of Brazilian fretboard guitars being made since 1992. Not as many as in the past, but they're out there. And pricey. I have loads of guitars with rosewood, ebony and birds eye maple fretboards made after 1992. Indian rosewood isn't as pricey as Brazilian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Help!I'maRock! Posted February 22, 2012 Members Share Posted February 22, 2012 I think only 1 guitar.There's lots of Brazilian fretboard guitars being made since 1992.Not as many as in the past, but they're out there.And pricey. it's been illegal to trade Brazilian Rosewood since 1992, when it was put on the CITES list. good luck with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bbreaker Posted February 22, 2012 Members Share Posted February 22, 2012 it's been illegal to trade Brazilian Rosewood since 1992, when it was put on the CITES list. good luck with that. There are stock piles of Brazilian rosewood at manufacturers warehouses for years since 1992. Gibson has had their rosewood + ebony confiscated.Not all rosewood is Brazilian. Guitars made from stock piles of Brazilian are still legal to sell.They're getting more and more expensive though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Help!I'maRock! Posted February 22, 2012 Members Share Posted February 22, 2012 There are stock piles of Brazilian rosewood at manufacturers warehouses for years since 1992.Gibson has had their rosewood + ebony confiscated.Not all rosewood is Brazilian.Guitars made from stock piles of Brazilian are still legal to sell.They're getting more and more expensive though. you're correct, not all rosewood is Brazilian. but if you were true to your Gibson roots, you wouldn't accept anything less. after all, they're lesser versions of the originals. so we're back to the idea that you only buy instruments to make money from them. because if it were about "standards" and "what a Gibson is supposed to be" then you'd have given up on Gibson in the year you started buying them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bbreaker Posted February 22, 2012 Members Share Posted February 22, 2012 you're correct, not all rosewood is Brazilian. but if you were true to your Gibson roots, you wouldn't accept anything less. after all, they're lesser versions of the originals. so we're back to the idea that you only buy instruments to make money from them. because if it were about "standards" and "what a Gibson is supposed to be" then you'd have given up on Gibson in the year you started buying them. I like Brazilian rosewood.I also like Indian rosewood and ebony and maple.My standards are not Brazilian or nothing. Nor is it buying only value pieces. I buy the quality I can afford.You confuse smart buying with buying to flip and make a profit. I buy to play not to flip.My Gibson roots go much much earlier than the Henry Juszkiewicz era. Don't try to analyze my standards when I tell you flat out that I prefer rosewood, ebony and maple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rock-lobster Posted February 22, 2012 Members Share Posted February 22, 2012 Don't care really what a fretboard is made of as long as it looks and feels right (I generally prefer ebony and maple to rosewood). That fretboard looks very nice so it would come down to how it felt for me. The concept of recycled material as a fretboard is pretty cool IMO, but like I said I'd want to try it in person. The guitar itself looks nice for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Ratae Corieltauvorum Posted February 22, 2012 Moderators Share Posted February 22, 2012 African mahogany body and neck, indeterminate rosewood, too many late 50s Gibsons have been found to contain no Honduran or Brazilian, so don't get too excited Lou, just enjoy the guitar for what it is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Ratae Corieltauvorum Posted February 22, 2012 Moderators Share Posted February 22, 2012 "It's made from PAPER!" And what's paper made from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members warriorpoet Posted February 22, 2012 Members Share Posted February 22, 2012 perhaps you'd like to tell us all how many instruments made after 1992 you have made from Brazilian Rosewood? [video=youtube;Tym0MObFpTI] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bbreaker Posted February 22, 2012 Members Share Posted February 22, 2012 African mahogany body and neck, indeterminate rosewood, too many late 50s Gibsons have been found to contain no Honduran or Brazilian, so don't get too excited Lou, just enjoy the guitar for what it is Been authenticated. It's a '56. I enjoy. I don't get too excited anymore. I'm 59 with high blood pressure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members C-4 Posted February 22, 2012 Members Share Posted February 22, 2012 I've played tons of Gibson guitars.I've owned tons of Gibson guitars.If the funds are available, I'm not interested in Gibson guitars these days.It could change but I'm leaning more towards Teye; McInturff, PRS, Trussart and Rickenbacker. I totally understand this. After 50+ years of playing Gibsons, Fenders, and other american made guitars, I have gotten into finer European built ones and love them. My Handles are carbon fiber, one piece uni-chassis bodies, and a synthetic fretboard material. Gibson is trying to figure out how to cope with their past mistakes, legally speaking. That's fine. However, there are a lot of great alternatives offered now that were not available when I started playing. Those 60+ year old designs are fine, but I've been there done that way too many times to just keep repeating it over again. It really depends on how long one has played the same types of guitars and whether or not they are open-minded enough to try alternatives. I understand why players with less time in on guitar are interested in the older designs. Once they accumulate many years, or perhaps before that, they may eventually desire to be daring enough to try something outside the traditional box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bbreaker Posted February 22, 2012 Members Share Posted February 22, 2012 Gibson can do whatever they want.I'm just not going to buy it.I think.You can support Henry and his antics.OK, now rant away. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qW6gzoD7qTg&feature=related Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members frankthomson Posted February 22, 2012 Members Share Posted February 22, 2012 Brazilian rosewood............... srsly.... who the {censored} wants fukn birds on their fukn guitar ????? fukn stoopid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Ratae Corieltauvorum Posted February 22, 2012 Moderators Share Posted February 22, 2012 Been authenticated.It's a '56.I enjoy. Authenticated as a 56 yes, Honduran mahogany, highly unlikely, Brazilian fretboard who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Help!I'maRock! Posted February 22, 2012 Members Share Posted February 22, 2012 srsly....who the {censored} wants fukn birds on their fukn guitar ?????fukn stoopid. he's from New Jersey. why would anybody trust his opinion in the first place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bbreaker Posted February 22, 2012 Members Share Posted February 22, 2012 he's from New Jersey. why would anybody trust his opinion in the first place? Totally fabricated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Help!I'maRock! Posted February 22, 2012 Members Share Posted February 22, 2012 Totally fabricated. you live in the Armpit of America. it has rotted your brain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bbreaker Posted February 22, 2012 Members Share Posted February 22, 2012 Authenticated as a 56 yes, Honduran mahogany, highly unlikely, Brazilian fretboard who knows. It is.duh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bbreaker Posted February 22, 2012 Members Share Posted February 22, 2012 you live in the Armpit of America. it has rotted your brain. I don't live in Camden.But I do want to get out of NJ.In a few years.Maybe the Brian (Brian Krashpad) & the Bbreakers will be a band. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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