Members Greg.Coal Posted January 3, 2013 Members Share Posted January 3, 2013 Originally Posted by fhh . . . . . On eBay, one possible incentive for cheap sales is to get more/keep the positive feedback. . . . . There have, in the past, been scams where a seller sells many items of something that is incredibly inexpensive - and sells them for a practically give-away price. Then, they have a seller rating of "100" and a thousand or so "very satisfied" ratings. Then they sell "new Apple MacBooks" for U.S. $400, get about 200 orders, and abscond with the cash (since there never were any MacBooks for sale). I think the Factory-direct sales we're seeing now, however, aren't that extraordinary and mostly reflect the actual low cost of many things. I know I've recently got Apple-like cables and HDMI stuff and other things for very cheap and with free shipping - which I guess throws me off, too. Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DaleH Posted January 3, 2013 Members Share Posted January 3, 2013 Originally Posted by Doctor Morbius That's excellent news. We need more companies that are willing to invest here at home. IMO, it's the only real way to get us out of the quagmire we're in. EDIT: Maybe someday somebody will invest in the Harmony Central forum so it won't continue to run like dog {censored}. $4 billion being invested into NY State by a computer-chip investment deal will also include Samsung, GlobalFoundries and the Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company. http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/20...te-cuomo-says/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DaleH Posted January 3, 2013 Members Share Posted January 3, 2013 Originally Posted by Doctor Morbius That's excellent news. We need more companies that are willing to invest here at home. IMO, it's the only real way to get us out of the quagmire we're in. EDIT: Maybe someday somebody will invest in the Harmony Central forum so it won't continue to run like dog {censored}. $4 billion being invested into NY State by a computer-chip investment deal will also include Samsung, GlobalFoundries and the Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company. http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/20...te-cuomo-says/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MarkF786 Posted January 3, 2013 Members Share Posted January 3, 2013 I don't understand how shipping from China is so inexpensive.I'll buy something from a store 100 miles away; the items costs $10 and the shipping $5. I'll order the same thing from China; the entire cost is just $5, it's shipped half-way around the world, and they're still making a profit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MarkF786 Posted January 3, 2013 Members Share Posted January 3, 2013 I don't understand how shipping from China is so inexpensive.I'll buy something from a store 100 miles away; the items costs $10 and the shipping $5. I'll order the same thing from China; the entire cost is just $5, it's shipped half-way around the world, and they're still making a profit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bbreaker Posted January 4, 2013 Members Share Posted January 4, 2013 I get a special order of snow peas and mixed veg rice from my local Chinese take out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bbreaker Posted January 4, 2013 Members Share Posted January 4, 2013 I get a special order of snow peas and mixed veg rice from my local Chinese take out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ben Randolph Posted January 4, 2013 Members Share Posted January 4, 2013 My two Atomic Reactor FR amps are American designed, Chinese-made. They're top quality items, no complaints whatsoever. I agree that just because something is made in China doesn't mean it's automatically junk. Of course companies looking to produce low cost, low quality goods can get them made cheap in China. I probably wouldn't order something like a Gibson Les Paul from China. I'd be afraid it was a fake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ben Randolph Posted January 4, 2013 Members Share Posted January 4, 2013 My two Atomic Reactor FR amps are American designed, Chinese-made. They're top quality items, no complaints whatsoever. I agree that just because something is made in China doesn't mean it's automatically junk. Of course companies looking to produce low cost, low quality goods can get them made cheap in China. I probably wouldn't order something like a Gibson Les Paul from China. I'd be afraid it was a fake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Scott Abene Posted January 4, 2013 Members Share Posted January 4, 2013 Speaking of China and Quality... This little amp is just simply amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Scott Abene Posted January 4, 2013 Members Share Posted January 4, 2013 Speaking of China and Quality... This little amp is just simply amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ben Randolph Posted January 4, 2013 Members Share Posted January 4, 2013 That E-Wave head is gorgeous. I've never heard of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ben Randolph Posted January 4, 2013 Members Share Posted January 4, 2013 That E-Wave head is gorgeous. I've never heard of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cratz2 Posted January 4, 2013 Members Share Posted January 4, 2013 Yeah, but Hershey and Nestle actually petitioned the FDA to change the definition of 'chocolate' so they could attempt to provide a lesser product... I can't hold either of them up in very high respect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cratz2 Posted January 4, 2013 Members Share Posted January 4, 2013 Yeah, but Hershey and Nestle actually petitioned the FDA to change the definition of 'chocolate' so they could attempt to provide a lesser product... I can't hold either of them up in very high respect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Doctor49 Posted January 4, 2013 Members Share Posted January 4, 2013 Remember when Japanese was a synonym for poor quality electrical and electronic goods?Japanese transistor radio syndrome??and everyone laughed until they got it together and dominated the market?Its a natural cycle happening again.US companies did it, the Japanese did it, the Chinese are doing it, later someone else will do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Doctor49 Posted January 4, 2013 Members Share Posted January 4, 2013 Remember when Japanese was a synonym for poor quality electrical and electronic goods?Japanese transistor radio syndrome??and everyone laughed until they got it together and dominated the market?Its a natural cycle happening again.US companies did it, the Japanese did it, the Chinese are doing it, later someone else will do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members chipwich Posted January 4, 2013 Members Share Posted January 4, 2013 One of my other hobbies is building and flying RC helicopters, both conventional and multirotor. Most of the R&D for the avionics, navigation (GPS nav with waypoints), first person view video, and mechanics is coming out of China. I like to support my local hobby shops, but most (one exception, Atlanta Hobby) don't carry the inventory and sometimes a bit behind technology wise with what is available on the web in the US and directly from China. If the Chinese hadn't gotten into the navigation side big time, the type of UAV platform that one can build for around $1500 would cost many tens of thousands of dollars.That's why I still get a kick out some really paridigm shifting products still being created in the US, like the Segway, Apple iPad (anyone use guitar apps?), and more recently Tesla Motors. A client of mine took delivery of a Tesla S a few weeks ago. I got a through walk-through and without a doubt it is a fundamental new way of relating to the automobile. More like a rolling iPad than a car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members chipwich Posted January 4, 2013 Members Share Posted January 4, 2013 One of my other hobbies is building and flying RC helicopters, both conventional and multirotor. Most of the R&D for the avionics, navigation (GPS nav with waypoints), first person view video, and mechanics is coming out of China. I like to support my local hobby shops, but most (one exception, Atlanta Hobby) don't carry the inventory and sometimes a bit behind technology wise with what is available on the web in the US and directly from China. If the Chinese hadn't gotten into the navigation side big time, the type of UAV platform that one can build for around $1500 would cost many tens of thousands of dollars.That's why I still get a kick out some really paridigm shifting products still being created in the US, like the Segway, Apple iPad (anyone use guitar apps?), and more recently Tesla Motors. A client of mine took delivery of a Tesla S a few weeks ago. I got a through walk-through and without a doubt it is a fundamental new way of relating to the automobile. More like a rolling iPad than a car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Doctor Morbius Posted January 4, 2013 Members Share Posted January 4, 2013 Originally Posted by cratz2 Yeah, but Hershey and Nestle actually petitioned the FDA to change the definition of 'chocolate' so they could attempt to provide a lesser product... I can't hold either of them up in very high respect. Wasn't aware of that. Lobbyists need to die, DIE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Doctor Morbius Posted January 4, 2013 Members Share Posted January 4, 2013 Originally Posted by cratz2 Yeah, but Hershey and Nestle actually petitioned the FDA to change the definition of 'chocolate' so they could attempt to provide a lesser product... I can't hold either of them up in very high respect. Wasn't aware of that. Lobbyists need to die, DIE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members drawdeep Posted January 4, 2013 Members Share Posted January 4, 2013 I had to replace the tuners on a sub $100 guitar for a friends kid... options were around $35 for a set from a US seller ot $7 direct from China. I opted for the $7 ones as that was the only sensible option and they were flawless in fit, finish and funtionality (sealed mini-Grover types).I have ordered electronics that were DOA, took months to arrive, etc.and also had one fraudulent charge on my account in the past, so buyer beware. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members drawdeep Posted January 4, 2013 Members Share Posted January 4, 2013 I had to replace the tuners on a sub $100 guitar for a friends kid... options were around $35 for a set from a US seller ot $7 direct from China. I opted for the $7 ones as that was the only sensible option and they were flawless in fit, finish and funtionality (sealed mini-Grover types).I have ordered electronics that were DOA, took months to arrive, etc.and also had one fraudulent charge on my account in the past, so buyer beware. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DaleH Posted January 4, 2013 Members Share Posted January 4, 2013 Originally Posted by MarkF786 I don't understand how shipping from China is so inexpensive. I'll buy something from a store 100 miles away; the items costs $10 and the shipping $5. I'll order the same thing from China; the entire cost is just $5, it's shipped half-way around the world, and they're still making a profit! because the gov. most likely subsidized the shipping. The entire country is geared to export. Probably 20 years ahead of the US and most of the world that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DaleH Posted January 4, 2013 Members Share Posted January 4, 2013 Originally Posted by MarkF786 I don't understand how shipping from China is so inexpensive. I'll buy something from a store 100 miles away; the items costs $10 and the shipping $5. I'll order the same thing from China; the entire cost is just $5, it's shipped half-way around the world, and they're still making a profit! because the gov. most likely subsidized the shipping. The entire country is geared to export. Probably 20 years ahead of the US and most of the world that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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