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Is there any way to find out of your phone is tapped?


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(Where does that term come from.)



Dred Scott was a black slave born in Virginia, USA in 1799. In several celebrated court cases, right up to the USA Supreme Court in 1857, he attempted to gain his freedom. These cases all failed but Scott was later made a free man by his 'owners', the Blow family. Knowing this, we might feel that we don't need to look further for the origin of scott free. Many people, especially in the USA, are convinced that the phrase originated with the story of Dred Scott.


The etymology of this phrase shows the danger of trying to prove a case on circumstantial evidence alone. In fact the phrase 'scot free' has nothing to do with Dred Scott.


Given the reputation of Scotsmen to be careful with their money we might look to Scotland for the origin of 'scot free'. Wrong again, but at least we are in the right part of the world now. A scot is a Scandinavian word for tax or payment. It came to the UK as a form of redistributive taxation which was levied as early the 13th century as a form of municipal poor relief. The term is a contraction of 'scot and lot'. Scot was the tax and lot, or allotment, was the share given to the poor.


Scot as a term for tax has been used since then to mean many different types of tax. Whatever the tax, the phrase 'scot free' just refers to not paying one's taxes.


No one likes paying tax and people have been getting off scot free since at least the 16th century. This reference from Vincent Skinner's translation of Reginaldus Gonsalvius Montanus's A discovery and playne declaration of sundry subtill practises of the holy inquisition of Spayne dates from 1598:


"Escape scotte free."




http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/scot%20free.html


I'm really bored today. :thu:

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Bull{censored}!


If you aren't engaged in any illegal activity, you have nothing to fear.


Seriously.

 

 

This is an often-used argument in favour of surveillance. You must be very trusting of government to allow these incursions on your privacy and not be worried. What is legal today may be easily declared illegal tomorrow. Where there is power there is abuse of power. For millenia now, these two things have always gone together.

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Bull{censored}!


If you aren't engaged in any illegal activity, you have nothing to fear.


Seriously.

 

 

I don't have anything to fear, it just pisses me off royally. It pisses me off for someone to read my newspaper over my shoulder - they have no business doing it.

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privacy is important. The phone companies shouldn't get off scott-free (Where does that term come from.) when responding to requests that are not court ordered. As to if you're not doing anything illegal, what ever happened to presumed innocent until proven guilty? No one wants to know about your sex life anyway.



Dude, total bull{censored}e.

Everyone is interested in my sex life. :rolleyes:

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Not everyone.


I'm pretty sure Mrs. lug could do with a break every now and then.
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"Behind every great man, there is a great woman."

Since Lug sucks as much as he does, doesn't that mean...... ?

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Geez, if they're tappin' our phones, are they doin' the same with our posts?

 

 

Carnivore

 

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carnivore_(FBI)

 

Makes me laugh when I hear someone beotching about how our rights have been sacrificed by Bush with the wire tapping of foriegn incoming telephone calls from suspected terrorists whilst the gov still runs this (changed to DCS1000 and then on to Dragonware).

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I posted about Echelon a while back and was accused of it being tin-foil hat stuff.
;)



Why don't you call a friend and tell them all about the Gov't oppression through Echelon. Then mention some things about your recent terrorist activity chasing your dog around the yard and see if the feds show up or not. :D

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I posted about Echelon a while back and was accused of it being tin-foil hat stuff.
;)




I still think Carnivore and it's follw-up are far more invasive. I mean all you have to do is type "bomb" or "hyjack" in your emails or on the interwebs and out come the guys in the black suits to ques............







....................internet line goes dead

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I posted about Echelon a while back and was accused of it being tin-foil hat stuff.
;)

 

It's basically common knowledge here. They used to use it to spy on Soviet fleets in the Mediterranean, now they use it to spy on the middle east.

 

It's kinda hard to call it tinfoil hat stuff when there's A MASSIVE LISTENING STATION on the top of the highest mountain around :D

 

Edit: Oh, and there's a mysterious compound in a pretty deserted part of town, overlooking the rest of the city. Like, everyone 'knows' it's run by the US military, and there's lots of antennas sticking out of it and a pretty creepy wall with some rather stern warnings on it. But no flags or any markings of any sort. Definately isn't part of our military, or the British (the listening station on the mountain is theirs, though).

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It's basically common knowledge here. They used to use it to spy on Soviet fleets in the Mediterranean, now they use it to spy on the middle east.


It's kinda hard to call it tinfoil hat stuff when there's A MASSIVE LISTENING STATION on the top of the highest mountain around
:D

 

Does it say "Secret U.S. Spy Listening Station" on the wall? :confused:

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Bull{censored}!


There is simply not enough computer power or humans to monitor every telephone call.

 

No one said "monitor" - they said "record".

 

Echelon is a data capture program, overseen by the NSA.

 

You'd better be pretty damn high on the FEDS list before you've got to worry about that - I doubt they even deploy it even against child porn and other Federal crimes (if so, they would go to great pains to keep its usage secret)

 

Now a wiretap - that's monitoring, and if you're getting those odd crackles and such on your line it's almost certainly tapped, by the investigating authorities.

 

Someone else said something about modern techniques: actually, when my dad was in service over 25 years ago, inductive couplers were certainly used then, in the field even.

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