Members fanuvbrak Posted May 20, 2009 Author Members Share Posted May 20, 2009 Well, that went well. We watched the whole video last night and I brought up a lot of the points that were brought up here. I did the good as well as the bad. I said we all had to improve, I said that we needed less hard stops and less begging to dance to a mystery song. I said we all had to dress better. The lead singer took it as a personal attack. He said I was a snob, an elitist, and tried to convince me that my parents never married. So, I quit. I think the drummer and the bass player will come with me. Which leaves me needing to find a new lead singer and either a lead or rhythm guitarist. Oh, well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Lee Knight Posted May 20, 2009 Moderators Share Posted May 20, 2009 Well, that went well. We watched the whole video last night and I brought up a lot of the points that were brought up here. I did the good as well as the bad. I said we all had to improve, I said that we needed less hard stops and less begging to dance to a mystery song. I said we all had to dress better. The lead singer took it as a personal attack. He said I was a snob, an elitist, and tried to convince me that my parents never married. So, I quit. I think the drummer and the bass player will come with me. Which leaves me needing to find a new lead singer and either a lead or rhythm guitarist. Oh, well. Sorry, but based solely on what you wrote here, you way overreacted. What did you expect his reaction to be? To say, "You right!!! Thanks, man!"? I would expect him to react the way you described above. And you to have to ride out the initial reaction a bit. To let it sink in. I'm not talking about you backing down. On the contrary, I'm talking about you sticking to your guns. Which it appears as though you didn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members wades_keys Posted May 20, 2009 Members Share Posted May 20, 2009 What I do in Logan St. band is take any concerns directly to the leader, and allow him to decide if it warrants a band meeting/discussion or not. He gets respect because he handles all promotion and booking of gigs, plus he's fair, diplomatic, and not easily miffed. It would not be my place to sit down and watch a video and offer criticism directly to the other band members: who the hell am I to do that? Just sayin..... The exception to that is the drummer: he and I have been friends for 30+ years. We critique each other's playing all of the time, with no issues. Other cats....can be real sensitive. I try not to go there: who died and made me the music director, ya know? Like I said: I think it's best to have a leader in place that can deal with these kinds of things diplomatically - a man can't serve two masters... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members paste Posted May 20, 2009 Members Share Posted May 20, 2009 Well, that went well. We watched the whole video last night and I brought up a lot of the points that were brought up here. I did the good as well as the bad. I said we all had to improve, I said that we needed less hard stops and less begging to dance to a mystery song. I said we all had to dress better.The lead singer took it as a personal attack. He said I was a snob, an elitist, and tried to convince me that my parents never married.So, I quit.I think the drummer and the bass player will come with me. Which leaves me needing to find a new lead singer and either a lead or rhythm guitarist.Oh, well. They sure got the Craigslist ad out fast: http://columbus.craigslist.org/muc/1179617812.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Chicken Monkey Posted May 20, 2009 Members Share Posted May 20, 2009 Sounds like a lot of over-reaction on all sides. It's too bad, you guys were off to a good start. It looks like you might not be taking the bassist and drummer, though, if they've got an ad up to replace you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members pickinatit Posted May 20, 2009 Members Share Posted May 20, 2009 If you are a "part time" (one or two shows a month) band and have a drummer & somebody that can really sing well that are willing to settle for that, I would put up with quite a bit more then you have complained about before bailing. Just sayin'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members vanlatte Posted May 20, 2009 Members Share Posted May 20, 2009 The lead singer took it as a personal attack. He said I was a snob, an elitist, and tried to convince me that my parents never married.. What a baby. Criticism is a huge part of being in a band; if he can't take constructive advice like this from people with his own best interests at heart, he is going to have a tough time with any band. Your gain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Austincowbell Posted May 20, 2009 Members Share Posted May 20, 2009 If the rest of the band stayed with the singer I feel like we don't have the whole story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members faileddrummer Posted May 20, 2009 Members Share Posted May 20, 2009 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R11x32WoxrM Trust me, it can get worst. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ChordGirl Posted May 20, 2009 Members Share Posted May 20, 2009 What a baby. Criticism is a huge part of being in a band; if he can't take constructive advice like this from people with his own best interests at heart, he is going to have a tough time with any band.Your gain. Yep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ender_rpm Posted May 20, 2009 Members Share Posted May 20, 2009 And FWIW, the BASS PLAYER should start Blister, not the guitard Brian Ritchie FTW!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tlbonehead Posted May 20, 2009 Members Share Posted May 20, 2009 And FWIW, the BASS PLAYER should start Blister, not the guitard Brian Ritchie FTW!!! yep, bass or acoustic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tlbonehead Posted May 20, 2009 Members Share Posted May 20, 2009 If the rest of the band stayed with the singer I feel like we don't have the whole story.that's a thought!~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JohnCub Posted May 20, 2009 Members Share Posted May 20, 2009 I think you did the right thing getting out when you did. I don't believe I'd be satisfied having "chorus girl" running the show. For my money (and time) I prefer a band that can be open. If I'm {censored}ing up? tell me. If you're {censored}ing up? I'm allowed to address that issue. Neither of us have to be hateful, but we all look at things differently. I've yet to meet a real musician who could also be considered a "normal person." We all have our quirks. But figure them out and learn to cope with 'em. It seems to me is all you did was say, "hey dude, here's how we could be better." If that doesn't float in his toilet? {censored} on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members chevybusa Posted May 20, 2009 Members Share Posted May 20, 2009 I think you did the right thing getting out when you did. I don't believe I'd be satisfied having "chorus girl" running the show. For my money (and time) I prefer a band that can be open. If I'm {censored}ing up? tell me. If you're {censored}ing up? I'm allowed to address that issue. Neither of us have to be hateful, but we all look at things differently. I've yet to meet a real musician who could also be considered a "normal person." We all have our quirks. But figure them out and learn to cope with 'em. It seems to me is all you did was say, "hey dude, here's how we could be better." If that doesn't float in his toilet? {censored} on him. +1. Couldn't agree more. I think you'll be a lot happier in the long run, I know from my own experience there is nothing worse than playing a gig where you are embarrased to be on the same stage as another member due to the way they act on stage, it compltely kills any ejoyment you could be having. It did for me any ways. Good luck!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members gjb3 Posted May 21, 2009 Members Share Posted May 21, 2009 I just watched the video again. IMO, you made the right decision to force the issue. Unfortunately, the Celine Dion tag is gonna stick to that guy. He could be great in other genres of music, but he's pretty lame doing that song, at least, and probably any other song that doesn't require over-emoting, show-tune style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Consume Posted May 21, 2009 Members Share Posted May 21, 2009 Actually, for me, the bigger fail is that somebody, ahem, actually performed this song with a FLYING V!Argh! That's like a Mega-ultra-uber-blasphemy in my book!Man, your singer has a REALLY high speaking voice, I was not ready for that - but he does have a really good voice.Eh, some of the things he was doing were kind of goofy, but you guys were breaking all sorts of my rules (somebody was drinking beer on stage, and that's a no no in my book....that's right up there with using the almighty V for playing this song. :poke: LOL) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Austincowbell Posted May 21, 2009 Members Share Posted May 21, 2009 Actually, for me, the bigger fail is that somebody, ahem, actually performed this song with a FLYING V! Argh! That's like a Mega-ultra-uber-blasphemy in my book! Man, your singer has a REALLY high speaking voice, I was not ready for that - but he does have a really good voice. Eh, some of the things he was doing were kind of goofy, but you guys were breaking all sorts of my rules (somebody was drinking beer on stage, and that's a no no in my book....that's right up there with using the almighty V for playing this song. :poke: LOL) If drinking beer onstage is breaking a rule I don't want to play the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Consume Posted May 21, 2009 Members Share Posted May 21, 2009 If drinking beer onstage is breaking a rule I don't want to play the game. No drinking and smoking on stage. Didn't you read the Beatles rules? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Z_Zoquis Posted May 21, 2009 Members Share Posted May 21, 2009 I follow the Rolling Stones rules personally... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Austincowbell Posted May 21, 2009 Members Share Posted May 21, 2009 No drinking and smoking on stage. Didn't you read the Beatles rules?I read this:I figure I'm WAYYYYYYY better than those guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RingoCalamity Posted May 21, 2009 Members Share Posted May 21, 2009 It looks like the lead singer's wearing jeans in the promo shot in the Craigslist ad. Improvement? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members P. Wallace Posted May 21, 2009 Members Share Posted May 21, 2009 Yeah, I'd be more worried about his over-vibrato than his busy hands. There was no reason that you guys couldn't have been vamping on the intro riff while he talked like a chump. And he'd talk less, because he'd be conscious of the rest of you, since you were playing. Most likely, though, he wouldn't have had to. Chicks love to dance to that song, and they generally come running when they hear that riff. Kudos on the top-shelf audience members, though. I don't know what the front of that blonde looks like, but the back was good enough to make it worth it. I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members boomboomdrums Posted May 21, 2009 Members Share Posted May 21, 2009 I watched the video. Looks to me like you got rid of the best part of your band. The guy gets into it! So. I'd much rather have that than a post. And, he can actually sing. Good singers that can actually sing are hard to find. I too thought he wasn't dressed much different than anyone else. I'm old school and in the minority on this for sure, but I think you should dress like rock stars. I've never been into the "looks like he just got dressed to mow the yard" look. I believe you should wear something that people will notice and remember. Just sets your band apart from all of the other "bunch of guys" bands out there. But that's just me. I don't like the begging people to dance bit. I think getting people to dance would be a lot less of a problem for your band if you played the song faster and with more balls. Seemed to me (and I may be wrong about this) like the time wavered too. Nothing will clear a dance floor faster than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members guitarsjb Posted May 21, 2009 Members Share Posted May 21, 2009 If drinking beer onstage is breaking a rule I don't want to play the game. Damn straight! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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