Members New Trail Posted February 10, 2011 Members Share Posted February 10, 2011 ...Steely Dan! Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vito Corleone Posted February 10, 2011 Members Share Posted February 10, 2011 Love 'em, but not really a band. At least not after the 3rd album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dparr Posted February 10, 2011 Members Share Posted February 10, 2011 The Byrds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SeniorBlues Posted February 10, 2011 Members Share Posted February 10, 2011 Love 'em, but not really a band. At least not after the 3rd album. They have toured . . . whether or not everyone on the bus was also on the album. Are we going to have to define what a band is? And yes, they're also my favorite too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members kmart Posted February 10, 2011 Members Share Posted February 10, 2011 I would hardly call Steely Dan representative of America/American bands, etc. You used the following:Greatest & American Thus... Creedence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tim_7string Posted February 10, 2011 Members Share Posted February 10, 2011 The Cars! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members twostone Posted February 10, 2011 Members Share Posted February 10, 2011 What genre of music?Elvis is the king of rock James Brown the Godfather of FunkAretha Franklin the queen of soulBeatles masters of popOzzy the Prince of Darkness and godfather of metalJimmy Hendrix the Ledgend of guitar godsWeird Al the comdey of music Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TIMKEYS Posted February 10, 2011 Members Share Posted February 10, 2011 Lynyrd Skynyrd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ChordGirl Posted February 10, 2011 Members Share Posted February 10, 2011 Eagles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vito Corleone Posted February 10, 2011 Members Share Posted February 10, 2011 They have toured . . . whether or not everyone on the bus was also on the album. Are we going to have to define what a band is? Michael Jackson toured. That doesn't make him a "band". And no one would be considering him as such for the purposes of this thread. I think Steely Dan doesn't qualify because, like a solo artist, their post '74 albums were neither written or recorded in any manner similar to what one recognizes as being a "band". That they later put a band together to go out and play the material is irrelevant. Yes. I love Steely Dan. But for being a "band" and being "American" and adding in commercial success as well?-- I'd agree with Kmart: CCR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bim1959 Posted February 10, 2011 Members Share Posted February 10, 2011 King's X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vito Corleone Posted February 10, 2011 Members Share Posted February 10, 2011 King's X Nah, I'm holding out for King's Y. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TIMKEYS Posted February 10, 2011 Members Share Posted February 10, 2011 Eagles good choice ,, they were a major player in the crossover movment. no doubt one of the most influential bands on american music ever. bridging the gap between rock and country was huge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vito Corleone Posted February 10, 2011 Members Share Posted February 10, 2011 Beatles masters of pop And so AMERICAN too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators BATCAT Posted February 10, 2011 Moderators Share Posted February 10, 2011 I once heard someone posit that The Stones were the greatest American band. I found that to be both funny and kinda true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SeniorBlues Posted February 10, 2011 Members Share Posted February 10, 2011 Michael Jackson toured. That doesn't make him a "band". And no one would be considering him as such for the purposes of this thread.I think Steely Dan doesn't qualify because, like a solo artist, their post '74 albums were neither written or recorded in any manner similar to what one recognizes as being a "band". That they later put a band together to go out and play the material is irrelevant.Yes. I love Steely Dan.But for being a "band" and being "American" and adding in commercial success as well?-- I'd agree with Kmart: CCR. Like I said, we're going to have to define "band". Donald Fagan did rearrange some of his material later on, but a lot of it is pretty much the same. Given all the stuff that goes on in a studio (the Beatles!?), you're going to disqualify a lot of groups. That's fine . . . a lot of music I like is produced by one person with high level support. Dr. John, Robben Ford, Stevie Winwood, Leon Russell. . . . . . What is it about John Foggerty that makes his supporting cast "a band" compared to Steely Dan? Would his musical output have sounded substantially different with a different rhythm section? What about Hendrix? Mitch Mitchell has a distinctive style of drumming . . . nothing like Buddy Miles, et al. Does JH qualify? (yes I know the supporting cast was Brits.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members THX1138 Posted February 10, 2011 Members Share Posted February 10, 2011 Steely Dan makes me want to punch kittens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vito Corleone Posted February 10, 2011 Members Share Posted February 10, 2011 Like I said, we're going to have to define "band". How about having the same drummer and bass player on at least half the tracks on your biggest album? Steely Dan is much closer to being defined as a 2-man solo act than a band. Steely Dan is the result of two guys brainstorming in the studio and using a bunch of hot studio cats to play the parts. There's really nothing "band" at ALL about albums like "Aja" or "Gaucho". That's fine . . . a lot of music I like is produced by one person with high level support. Dr. John, Robben Ford, Stevie Winwood, Leon Russell. . . . . . Me too. In fact, some of my all time favorite recording artists are basically one-man shows: Prince, Todd Rundgren, Howard Jones, Stevie Wonder. Great musicians. Great albums. Great live shows. NOT bands. What is it about John Foggerty that makes his supporting cast "a band" compared to Steely Dan? Would his musical output have sounded substantially different with a different rhythm section? Yes I think so. Those guys played together for a long time before they hit the big time. I think how they sounded as a group had a BIG influence on how Fogerty wrote and arranged his material. If nothing else, he was forced to write and arrange within the confines of their sound and abilities. He didn't jettison them all for some better studio cats and still called it "Creedence". What about Hendrix? Mitch Mitchell has a distinctive style of drumming . . . nothing like Buddy Miles, et al. Does JH qualify? (yes I know the supporting cast was Brits.) The JHE? Perhaps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators BATCAT Posted February 10, 2011 Moderators Share Posted February 10, 2011 Like I said, we're going to have to define "band". I think that's why the term "artist" is so often used instead of "band"; it includes both solo musicians, bands, and everything in between. (and annoys some BWTB forumites as a bonus!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vito Corleone Posted February 10, 2011 Members Share Posted February 10, 2011 I think that's why the term "artist" is so often used instead of "band"; it includes both solo musicians, bands, and everything in between. (and annoys some BWTB forumites as a bonus!) Maybe all you need is a band NAME to be a "band". In which case I'll nominate Nine Inch Nails. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members New Trail Posted February 10, 2011 Author Members Share Posted February 10, 2011 The reason for the term 'band' in the thread title is for a reason. Most European big acts seem to be bands, but in the US it's mostly individuals: Elvis Presley, Jerry Lee Lewis, Wilson Pickett, Otis Redding, Bob Dylan, Little Richard, Prince, Michael Jackson, the list goes on and on... Next thread: who is Europe's greatest individual (non-band) artist? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vito Corleone Posted February 10, 2011 Members Share Posted February 10, 2011 Next thread: who is Europe's greatest individual (non-band) artist? David Hasselhoff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Members twostone Posted February 10, 2011 Members Share Posted February 10, 2011 And so AMERICAN too! Whoops missed the America part but the Beatle's needed America to put them more popular then Jesus Christ status. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators BATCAT Posted February 10, 2011 Moderators Share Posted February 10, 2011 The reason for the term 'band' in the thread title is for a reason. Most European big acts seem to be bands, but in the US it's mostly individuals: Elvis Presley, Jerry Lee Lewis, Wilson Pickett, Otis Redding, Bob Dylan, Little Richard, Prince, Michael Jackson, the list goes on and on... Ok, but what is "Tom Petty and The Heartbreakers", then, for instance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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