Members New Trail Posted July 27, 2011 Members Share Posted July 27, 2011 Leave my house at 4:45 and drive an hour to the gig. Set up personal equipment, PA w/subs and 1 light tree. Gig is an outdoor street dance/party/concert. We play 2 approx. 1:15 sets with one break. Tear down equipment, drive home, get home around 11:45. Trailer rental, getting it and taking it back, plus loading and unloading the trailer, not included in times above. 5 piece band...What should a gig like that be worth? What should it pay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sbrett Posted July 27, 2011 Members Share Posted July 27, 2011 We'd probably charge at least $5-600 for a 2.5 hour gig like that. Preferably $600 so everyone gets a little over $100 with money left to cover the trailer. Is this a private gig or a city event? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members New Trail Posted July 27, 2011 Author Members Share Posted July 27, 2011 We'd probably charge at least $5-600 for a 2.5 hour gig like that. Preferably $600 so everyone gets a little over $100 with money left to cover the trailer. Is this a private gig or a city event? city event Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sbrett Posted July 27, 2011 Members Share Posted July 27, 2011 city event Might be able to get a few more bills. City events are hard to judge though. Sometimes they budget to go all out and you'll end up with great pay, and sometimes not so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members elbow Posted July 27, 2011 Members Share Posted July 27, 2011 On the "what should it pay?" I look at it like this... and I'll oversimplify it a bit, but it shouldn't skew it much. 5 people spend 6.5 hours on the gig (travel + gig) = 32.55 people load/unload/get and return the trailer (an hour and a half?) = 7.5 Time is a nice even 40 hours Misc expenses (again, I'll oversimplify a tad)Food on the cheap for 5 = $50Gas to/from (if you all ride together) = $20Trailer rental = $25Total expenses = $95 If the gig paid $500, you each made $10.13 per hourat $1000, you each made $22.63 per hour What would you do it for? I didn't go into other time and expense items like how much time was spent negotiating, or planning, or printing set lists, or getting gear ready, or making and posting flyers, or sending emails, or putting the date on your website, getting merch together, etc, etc, etc, etc. For "what will they pay?". For a city event, it's all over the map. I've seen several that want bands, and get them, for free. We've only done a few of them and we've been paid $300 and $600 for playing. We're an average dad band. YMMV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Zeromus-X Posted July 27, 2011 Members Share Posted July 27, 2011 The city doesn't care if you've got to rent equipment to make it happen; their budget is more likely considering that they want you to do two sets with "great exposure", if it's anything like our local city festivals. Heh. "Exposure." Stab me. Anyway, our personal breakdown of the gig based on the equipment you listed would be: Travel: 1 hour each way = ~30 miles each way? * $1/mile = $60 * 5 members = $300Gear: Tops + Subs + Light tree = $75Setup: 1 hour @ $15/hr * 5 members = $75Teardown: 1 hour @ $15/hr * 5 members = $75Gig Time: 2.5 hours @ $15/hr * 5 members = $187.50Break Time: $0 (we only consider break time charges if they exceed an hour, at which point you're sitting around bored)Total: $712.50 We'd round that down to $700 (we charge in $50 increments, rounded either way) and put in a quote at that price. If you need to factor in the cost of a trailer, you can feel free to add that, but you may be pricing yourself out of the game at that point. Do you seriously rent a trailer every time you play a show? At that point I'd likely consider selling my PA and just hiring out sound each show and not worrying about that crap. If you're playing original music, multiply by 0.5. From an internal standpoint, in our band, whoever booked the show would make $182, the member who provides sound would make $147, lighting provider would make $147, and the remaining two members would make $112. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jeff42 Posted July 27, 2011 Members Share Posted July 27, 2011 what is your average price? I'd go with that. If you guys are pulling down on an average $1500 per gig that's what I would ask. if you guys are pulling down $600 per gig I'd go with that. It all depends on the band. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Zeromus-X Posted July 27, 2011 Members Share Posted July 27, 2011 Right. I don't know how popular or not the original poster's band is; I have to think if they were pulling in $1500/night they wouldn't be asking here. The adjustable value in my formula is the band member's pay per hour for setup, teardown, and playing. If you're an entry-level band, $15 seems right on the mark. If you can command a crowd, it's easy to get 5-10 times that amount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jeff42 Posted July 27, 2011 Members Share Posted July 27, 2011 Right. I don't know how popular or not the original poster's band is; I have to think if they were pulling in $1500/night they wouldn't be asking here. The adjustable value in my formula is the band member's pay per hour for setup, teardown, and playing. If you're an entry-level band, $15 seems right on the mark. If you can command a crowd, it's easy to get 5-10 times that amount. the way you broke it down does look good. (I actually didn't look at it until after I posted) It probably is right around the price they would be able to get IMO if they were playing in my area and were a decent but not hugely popular band. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Austincowbell Posted July 27, 2011 Members Share Posted July 27, 2011 minimum $1000 but I'm thinking $1500ish depending on name recognition for your band. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members wheresgrant3 Posted July 27, 2011 Members Share Posted July 27, 2011 If we had to provide sound and lights, we would charge our normal rate and then some. We often play community events and those bookings usually take away an opportunity for a nightclub gig so we normall charge $2000-2200. We provide lights, sound. Again... we're in the position where we have to 'make room' for these bookings. We just turned down a Thursday night city street gig where they were providing stage, sound, lights (all pro equipment) for $1000. The problem was it's an 1-45 min drive. We'd leave at 4pm and get home at 2am. We've played this gig for a few summers now and it's always well attended. However we don't notice much of a 'spike' in new faces or attendence at a nearby club we play afterward. So this year we passed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vito Corleone Posted July 27, 2011 Members Share Posted July 27, 2011 Q: Band Pay: How much should it be for this gig? A: As much as you can get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Agitator Posted July 27, 2011 Members Share Posted July 27, 2011 What you should get: $1500 - $2000 What you'll probably get: $300 - $600, as others have suggested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tlbonehead Posted July 27, 2011 Members Share Posted July 27, 2011 Leave my house at 4:45 and drive an hour to the gig. Set up personal equipment, PA w/subs and 1 light tree. Gig is an outdoor street dance/party/concert. We play 2 approx. 1:15 sets with one break. Tear down equipment, drive home, get home around 11:45. Trailer rental, getting it and taking it back, plus loading and unloading the trailer, not included in times above.5 piece band...What should a gig like that be worth? What should it pay?we usually get $1K for a gig like that. But is usually involves 6-8 large subs and 4 or 6 large top cabs. This is for a 3-piece band. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members teleman55 Posted July 28, 2011 Members Share Posted July 28, 2011 Last city gig we did (about 3 weeks ago), we got $1600 after the booking agent cut. That was $200 each for two singers and guitar, bass, and keys, all who sing too, plus a drummer and a sax player. And $100 each to two backup singers. It was a small city of about 20,000, but a college (read: party) town.They did the stage/sound system, refreshments, etc. We were the headliner one night of a four night thing, multiple bands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SpaceNorman Posted July 28, 2011 Members Share Posted July 28, 2011 It seems to me that the BIG differentiator in terms of pay at "city" gigs is whether or not beer is being served. City gig where there's beer being sold translates to a $1,600 - $2,400 gig. Same city - but no beer (think mid-week concert in the park sort of setting) - $600 - $800. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members teleman55 Posted July 28, 2011 Members Share Posted July 28, 2011 Yeah, there was beer at ours, plus it was a Holiday weekend. One off on a Wed. in a park, I'd figure $500, or hopefully a little more. That would be a trio or acoustic gig. Or maybe a four piece plus a singer at most. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members New Trail Posted July 28, 2011 Author Members Share Posted July 28, 2011 we usually get $1K for a gig like that. But is usually involves 6-8 large subs and 4 or 6 large top cabs. This is for a 3-piece band. Oh, no, we only took two subs, two mains, and two monitors. We got $800 for the gig. Pretty fair I guess. We always want more, don't we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ku'Yleh Posted July 28, 2011 Members Share Posted July 28, 2011 I'd start at a grand, but I would settle for 800. we usually get $1K for a gig like that. But is usually involves 6-8 large subs and 4 or 6 large top cabs. This is for a 3-piece band. 6-8 subs? seriously? Reminds me of the 4th July gig we did... it was pretty much a band every two blocks downtown. The bands with FAR TOO MUCH bass were quickly left behind for our moderate 2 sub rig, and *gasp* audible mids/treble. STOP killing it with bass please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members modulusman Posted July 28, 2011 Members Share Posted July 28, 2011 I'd start at a grand, but I would settle for 800. 6-8 subs? seriously? Reminds me of the 4th July gig we did... it was pretty much a band every two blocks downtown. The bands with FAR TOO MUCH bass were quickly left behind for our moderate 2 sub rig, and *gasp* audible mids/treble. STOP killing it with bass please. Did you read the part about bringing 4-6 tops to go along with it. If the event is big enough it sounds about right to me. You can never have too much PA outside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tlbonehead Posted July 28, 2011 Members Share Posted July 28, 2011 Did you read the part about bringing 4-6 tops to go along with it. If the event is big enough it sounds about right to me. You can never have too much PA outside. yep. we have our stuff wired up so that it has volume controls ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tlbonehead Posted July 28, 2011 Members Share Posted July 28, 2011 yep. we have our stuff wired up so that it has volume controls ! And the tops are dual 12" 3-way long-throw boxes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tlbonehead Posted July 28, 2011 Members Share Posted July 28, 2011 I'd start at a grand, but I would settle for 800.6-8 subs? seriously?Reminds me of the 4th July gig we did... it was pretty much a band every two blocks downtown. The bands with FAR TOO MUCH bass were quickly left behind for our moderate 2 sub rig, and *gasp* audible mids/treble. STOP killing it with bass please.well, that's just poor use of your stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vito Corleone Posted July 29, 2011 Members Share Posted July 29, 2011 yep. we have our stuff wired up so that it has volume controls ! Amazes me how many people can't seem to figure out this simple concept.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Agitator Posted July 29, 2011 Members Share Posted July 29, 2011 One time, we played in downtown Taunton, MA, and the whole PA system and band power was being run off of a single street lamp. This was in the 1990's, but Taunton was still kicking it old school. Good times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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