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dick wiggins

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Depends on the semi I suppose. The Gibson 335 has a pretty low profile but you get into the Howard Roberts sizes they can be quite an adjustment. The Epi Casinos are pretty easy to get around on. Semi hollow is a lot of territory...there's millions of model's. There's even semi hollow Tele's.

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I hurt myself playing my Les Paul sitting down when I first got it. The small size led to poor posture and I developed tendentious.

 

I still use the Les Paul for performance but play an ES-137 for most of my practice and studio stuff (unless I really need the LP sound for certain bits).

 

The 137 is a semi-acoustic and about the same size as an ES-175 jazz box but it is a little bit thinner.

 

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I head that semi hollow teles was fake Fender only did that to make them lighter has nithing to do w the sound

 

I concur. I think it was just a niche grab attempt. I personally think the only way you're going to really going to really achieve any real tonal difference is with a hollow body that does not employ solid neck through the body construction. I.E. a guitar with the pickups mounted on a truly hollow body...The Howard Roberts, Epi Casino's...Etc.

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^So it sounds like you're saying that a semi-hollow doesn't give you any tonal difference from a solid body. I disagree with that. I had a 175 style hollow (Artstar AF120) and always wished I had of gotten a 335 style guitar instead. Feedback was more of an issue, the trapeze bridge made bending problematic and the body just felt too big and cumbersome. I now have a 335 style guitar (Carlo Robelli) and I'm totally 100% happy with it in every way. And it definitely has the acoustic quality to the sound that I enjoyed with the Ibanez.

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I like that like a giant les paul

 

 

A 335 has a maple body with a solid pice of maple inside running from the end of the neck to the bottom (tail) of the guitar.

 

The 137 has a solid block of mahogany inside a maple body but it only goes from the end of the neck to just under the tail piece. The guitar seems to me to be like a Les Paul inside a 175 and the it behaves like a combination of the two. It can be warm and Jazzy like the 175 but can also scream with a thick Les Paul sound when overdriven.

 

Feedback is a bit more of an issue with the 137 than it is with a 335 but like the 335 it gives the player an opportunity to work the feedback whereas the 175 gets difficult to control at higher gain/volume levels. The 137 Custom has the Varitone circuit which cuts midrange to different degrees (depending on the setting) and it is helpful in dealing with feedback.

 

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I hurt myself playing my Les Paul sitting down when I first got it. The small size led to poor posture and I developed tendentious.

 

I still use the Les Paul for performance but play an ES-137 for most of my practice and studio stuff (unless I really need the LP sound for certain bits).

 

The 137 is a semi-acoustic and about the same size as an ES-175 jazz box but it is a little bit thinner.

 

 

That guitar is beautiful! Isn't that the same one that the guy from Kings of Leon plays? Love his tone...

 

 

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I love hollow and semi hollow, and the F holes in general. There is a difference between the semi's and the full hollows, tone, the sustain, and in the controllable feedback issues.

 

Getting used to them, well, depends on the music you play, and what you are used to playing to begin with. I have a Samick LaSalle JZ3 that is 4 inches think, and hollow. Would I play that for a metal show? Ummm, the answer is no by the way. The Ibanez AS73 on the other hand, a 335 styled semi hollow, I could work with.

 

It's also a thing with me personally, that I find more appealing in the semi's and full hollow bodies. I feel that you need to be a more precise, a bit better on a semi or a hollow, since you can't use effects or distortion, to hide behind as you would using say a Paul or a SG.

 

And yes, I do believe there is a bit of difference in a thinline, then a fully solid tele. But hey, that's just my opinion.

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That guitar is beautiful! Isn't that the same one that the guy from Kings of Leon plays? Love his tone...

 

 

 

Yes, the KOL guy is playing an ES-137 and the one in the picture I posted is an ES-137 Custom. The Custom is a bit fancier with more binding and an ebony fingerboard - sort of like a Les Paul Custom compared to a Standard - and it has a Varitone circuit in it. I think the pickups might be different as well with the Custom using '57 Classics and the 'Standard' using the 490R/498T combo (again like the different Les Paul models).

 

 

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I prefer semi or full hollowbody over solids. Less sustain, but to me doesn't matter. I don't hold a note for that long anyway... I've got a 99 Guild Starfire IV, Fender MP thinline deluxe (cheap but love it), Cort Sunset 1 (same as Gretsch spectrasonic, sounds between ric and Gretsch), Ibanez full AF95 and Ovation VXT (does "chambered" count as semi? does to me). Just get more of a real guitar vibe rather than slab of wood with pickups. Love my Reverend 6 gun... I hear Japanese made semi strat available... anyone try one of those?

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I prefer semi or full hollowbody over solids. Less sustain' date=' but to me doesn't matter. [/quote']

 

I've test driven semi and full hollowbody models that had excellent natural un-plugged-in sustain.

 

 

 

does "chambered" count as semi?

 

Normally not. However, a few, such as the Gretsch DuoJet with the original hollowed out build are close to being the equivalent of a conventional semi-hollow.

 

 

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If you want a semi hollow but are not crazy about the size, may I recommend an ES-339. Smaller version of a 335. I have the Epiphone version with coil tapped humbuckers, Very versatile & inexpensive (~450 new... I picked up mine used for 280).

 

I also have a full hollow (Artcore AF-75). Probably the least played out of all my guitars (very dark sounding & feeds back crazy when gain is added). I'd sell it but it was a gift.

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I put a pair of Golden Age humbuckers from StewMac in my Ibanez and wow did they ever make a difference. $100 or so with shipping, well worth the cost. Trust me (well, believe me?). Pro friend of mine said liked tone better than his ES335.....

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