Members petejt Posted November 22, 2009 Members Share Posted November 22, 2009 A spot has opened up on my pedalboard, so I am looking to fill it in... And I am really not sure what to get? My board is essentially a modulation board, since modulation is my most favourite effect- Two chorus pedals, a flanger, a delay, an EQ, and a polyoctave (POG). And I also have a separate rackmounted chorus/delay unit, a parametric EQ, and an Accutronics reverb tank in the amp. You see, I don't really like compression. I have considered it, but find I just don't need it- my pickups are plenty hot & beefy for my needs, my amp compresses the signal enough, I like to hear my playing dynamics, and I'm not a fan of that 'clicky' sound much- particularly with chorus (which is a BIG part of that pop 80s chorus stuff, I may be a chorus fan but not the bright clicky stuff). I don't need more delay. I have a Boss DD20 which is stereo, but I've "stacked" the delay by running the A channel output into the B channel. And also one of my chorus pedals has an Echo function that works great for 'go-to' delay and ambient echo trails. My Boss DD20 satisfactorily covers my looping needs. I did think of tremolo, but I get that and more from my other chorus pedal by using its Pitch Modulation with vibrato. I've been considering phaser effects, but somehow it just isn't gelling with me... . I'd like it to, but, well I don't know. I really like that dark fat thick gooey sort of phaser like on Phase90s, but from what I have heard they don't do it exactly the same. And I can almost replicate that sort of effect by stacking chorus effects... My POG covers the organ effects........It's a fantastic pedal, love it to bits, but I don't want multiples of the same effect, outside of chorusing of course. I could go on more, but will tackle the gain issue now. Take note that my chief amp is my Mesa/Boogie MarkIV amp head. I've got gobs of gain, so don't need a dirt box or an overdrive to get it to sustain. The thing is so damn liquidy and sustaining when cranked. The Rhythm 1 channel does awesome crystalline clean tones and some nice fendery grit too by hitting the strings hard. And it can get chicken-pick tone if I want it. The only issue I have is with its Rhythm 2 channel, which I'd like to be more 'Marshall Plexi'-like. I want some of that bark. Mesa/Boogie's Electradyne pretty much nails that particular range tone, and of course any old Marshall JMP amp head (which I once had the opportunity to acquire and threw it away ). I need to try some EL34s but regardless I am struggling. I think I will get there... Anyway, it would be nice to have a completely different type of distortion sound, hence why I am considering Fuzz. I don't particularly like most fuzz tones, or anything fuzzy & hairy in general...... But there is something in there that I reckon is worth exploring. I'd like something a little bit murky and fuzzy, yet not incoherent, not flubby, not hollow, not smudgey, not blubbery, not too woolly. A fuzz that still retains some definition in the tone. If it can work well with the Rhythm 2 channel to fuzz it up a bit, and then turn the fuzz pedal off for the Marshall bark, that'd be GREAT! So, what can I do? Is there a fuzz pedal that would suit me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members plushpile Posted November 22, 2009 Members Share Posted November 22, 2009 Based on that post you've already sold yourself a fuzz... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members petejt Posted November 22, 2009 Author Members Share Posted November 22, 2009 Based on that post you've already sold yourself a fuzz... Yeah but I don't know which one. Whenever I get Fuzz GAS it gets shot down after listening to demonstrations of fuzz pedals.... I wouldn't mind one that those the big doom sound, but would like more versatility in it., and that can ADD to my ensemble of sounds rather than be a redundancy since I managed to get doom sounds using my POG, the MarkIV alongside the MS2/50-50 setup and some slight chorusing/flanging & a touch of delay. While writing the thread I had/ve a Lovetone Cheese Source in mind- would that work for me? I don't know too much about it or know where I can get them.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Devi Ever Posted November 22, 2009 Members Share Posted November 22, 2009 Monsterpiece : http://acapella.harmony-central.com/showthread.php?t=1778565 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members messiah Posted November 22, 2009 Members Share Posted November 22, 2009 Monsterpiece : http://acapella.harmony-central.com/showthread.php?t=1778565 +1 Cheese Source's are great, if you can find one...:poke: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JRBain Posted November 22, 2009 Members Share Posted November 22, 2009 It's not a purist's fuzz, but I have an EHX Double Muff, which I love. It's essentially a sort of fuzzy OD pedal from what I can gather? Anyway, whatever it is, it's far too fuzzy to be an overdrive, but too overdrive to be an ordinary fuzz. It's a really great pedal: It's got tons of output volume, and has plenty of grit and bite if you want a more 'fuzzy' sort of sound, but when wound up has enough bass response and thickness to sound vaguely reminiscent of a Muff, though it isn't a Big Muff. It's a very different unit. Anyway, it was my introduction to the wonderful world of fuzz, and I love it. At any price it sounds good, and for what you pay, I'd wholeheartedly recommend it. However, beware: It doesn't like buffers or wahs (without fuzz-friendly technology I assume). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jhamnett Posted November 22, 2009 Members Share Posted November 22, 2009 Monsterpiece : http://acapella.harmony-central.com/showthread.php?t=1778565 Beat me to it. NPN or MKII/MKIII would be nice for you, I think, cause you can dial in a "fuzzy OD" type of sound. Also, I own/have owned all of those, so you can take my word Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members petejt Posted November 22, 2009 Author Members Share Posted November 22, 2009 Monsterpiece : http://acapella.harmony-central.com/showthread.php?t=1778565 damn why does it have so many knobs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members messiah Posted November 22, 2009 Members Share Posted November 22, 2009 damn why does it have so many knobs? ..cos that one you're looking at is 3 fuzz pedals in one enclosure. The most they have individually is 3 knobs, as in the NPN, Classic and MKII which are the most popular ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members petejt Posted November 22, 2009 Author Members Share Posted November 22, 2009 It's not a purist's fuzz, but I have an EHX Double Muff, which I love. It's essentially a sort of fuzzy OD pedal from what I can gather? Anyway, whatever it is, it's far too fuzzy to be an overdrive, but too overdrive to be an ordinary fuzz. It's a really great pedal: It's got tons of output volume, and has plenty of grit and bite if you want a more 'fuzzy' sort of sound, but when wound up has enough bass response and thickness to sound vaguely reminiscent of a Muff, though it isn't a Big Muff. It's a very different unit. Anyway, it was my introduction to the wonderful world of fuzz, and I love it. At any price it sounds good, and for what you pay, I'd wholeheartedly recommend it. However, beware: It doesn't like buffers or wahs (without fuzz-friendly technology I assume). Thanks man! I'll try and find one locally throughout next week. I haven't got a wah-wah pedal. To be honest I haven't explored wah-wahs (and maybe should?), but yet I'm more of a rhythm player than lead. I think my Boss DD20 is the only buffer pedal I have. Another thing to note is that, soon I'll have all the pedals in loops of a Sound Sculpture Switchblade, fitted into the pedalboard. I think that might address the buffer issue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jarrizle Posted November 22, 2009 Members Share Posted November 22, 2009 A Dice Works Muff Diver really allows you to get some extreme tonal variations. In the original setting it's a full on muff but in the Cornish mode it focuses the low end so it's not near as woofy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members petejt Posted November 22, 2009 Author Members Share Posted November 22, 2009 I suppose the thing too about Fuzz is that I want something that can do what I can't already do with my electric guitar & tone & volume controls and the Mesa/Boogie MarkIV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mr. Sarum Posted November 22, 2009 Members Share Posted November 22, 2009 Do you have a price point? Or any stand out songs that have something fuzzy that appeals to you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Devi Ever Posted November 22, 2009 Members Share Posted November 22, 2009 I suppose the thing too about Fuzz is that I want something that can do what I can't already do with my electric guitar & tone & volume controls and the Mesa/Boogie MarkIV. Get a Tonebender variation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members V Posted November 22, 2009 Members Share Posted November 22, 2009 I suppose the thing too about Fuzz is that I want something that can do what I can't already do with my electric guitar & tone & volume controls and the Mesa/Boogie MarkIV. Well, if you want a really versatile fuzz pedal for that, you might check out a Wolf Computer. It can sound like a dying atari. It can sound like a fuzz face. It can do clean boost. It can add dark grit to a distorted sound. It can do overdrive type sounds. It can sound like velcro. This song of mine uses a Wolf Computer > Traynor YCV50 on all the guitar tracks. http://venter.bandcamp.com/track/nobody-likes-a-whiner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members V Posted November 22, 2009 Members Share Posted November 22, 2009 Get a Tonebender variation. Oh, also a good option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members melx Posted November 22, 2009 Members Share Posted November 22, 2009 how about something slightly different like an octave fuzz? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Dr.Fuzz Posted November 22, 2009 Members Share Posted November 22, 2009 The Keeley Fuzz Head is a pretty overdrive-y fuzz pedal. Not too out of control, but still has some classic fuzz tones to offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TheAtomicJeff Posted November 22, 2009 Members Share Posted November 22, 2009 The Keeley Fuzz Head is a pretty overdrive-y fuzz pedal. Not too out of control, but still has some classic fuzz tones to offer. Been thru a lot of fuzzes and this is what remains for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ming Chow Posted November 22, 2009 Members Share Posted November 22, 2009 Fulltone Catalyst Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SirJackdeFuzz Posted November 22, 2009 Members Share Posted November 22, 2009 http://www.pedalgeek.com/cgi-bin/new_shop.cgi?config=&uid=xNL3jQAA1258770585&command=link--miabp MI Audio might have what you need ! An overdrive and with the flick of a switch, a wicked cool fuzz !!!Utoob this one ! Another great contender has got to be the Subedecay Liquid Sunshine ! http://www.pedalgeek.com/cgi-bin/new_shop.cgi?config=&uid=xNL3jQAA1258770585&command=link--sdls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mike.sartori Posted November 22, 2009 Members Share Posted November 22, 2009 Fulltone Catalyst I thought the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Members EL KABONG Posted November 22, 2009 Members Share Posted November 22, 2009 ummmmmmmmmmm U need a Cornish G2 it's a fuzz for people that don't like fuzz imo.. It is very amp like and has the best buffer you can buy. I love mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SirJackdeFuzz Posted November 23, 2009 Members Share Posted November 23, 2009 it's a fuzz for people that don't like fuzz imo.. It is very amp like and has the best buffer you can buy. I love mine. How much do they go for these days ? Cornish gear is not cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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