Members bluehuricane Posted October 1, 2012 Members Share Posted October 1, 2012 my roommate and friend built a longboard to a design i mentioned to him awhile ago. i had not commissioned him to build it, he just showed up with it one day after making it at his parents' house. i was ecstatic cause it was a really sweet board. 2 days after we set it up, the nose broke off while i was on it and he just asked me when i'm going to pay for it, which i had no intention of doing because it obviously was defective. i tried to do a simple nose manual on it when i broke it btw. i did mention that i wanted it but i would have to pay him in the future. what if anything am i obligated to pay him? as far as i was concerned it was still his and it broke during normal use, but i don't want to just shaft him either. i don't know why i come to you guys with these questions, probably cause you're the furthest removed group of 'friends' i have. anyways, tell me how not to be an asshole or a {censored}. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil O'Keefe Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 Who was riding it when the nose broke? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bluehuricane Posted October 1, 2012 Author Members Share Posted October 1, 2012 i was Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ChuckNorris1982 Posted October 1, 2012 Members Share Posted October 1, 2012 Was there ever a point where you actually asked him to make it for you and money was discussed? If not, if he just took it upon himself to make it and then ask for money, then I'd say you don't owe him anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ItchyFingers Posted October 1, 2012 Members Share Posted October 1, 2012 In the first line, you describe him as a friend. If a friend borrowed a pedal from you and returned it broken, how would you respond to that? It shouldn't be any different in this case - do what's needed to make it right. You mention you attempted a repair, but it sounds like a pro repair would be the bare minimum to make things cool between you guys. If it were me, I'd get it professionally repaired, pay for the board you broke, or replace the board entirely with one of equal value. Then again, I love my friends and intend to keep them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Poltergeist Posted October 1, 2012 Members Share Posted October 1, 2012 1) take a {censored} on it. 2) drop it on his doorstep. 3) profit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bluehuricane Posted October 1, 2012 Author Members Share Posted October 1, 2012 In the first line, you describe him as a friend. If a friend borrowed a pedal from you and returned it broken, how would you respond to that? It shouldn't be any different in this case - do what's needed to make it right. You mention you attempted a repair, but it sounds like a pro repair would be the bare minimum to make things cool between you guys. If it were me, I'd get it professionally repaired, pay for the board you broke, or replace the board entirely with one of equal value. Then again, I love my friends and intend to keep them. he made it himself, you can't repair a longboard, and pedals are a little different. i'm not a heavy guy, longboards aren't supposed to break from that kind of use. and he was with me riding it that night, i was just on it when it broke. and to answer the question earlier, he built it without telling me, then we set it up with his trucks and wheels, and i mentioned that i loved the design and when my birthday rolled around i could free up some cash and buy it off of him. so yeah i intended on buying it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members WeStartToDrift Posted October 1, 2012 Members Share Posted October 1, 2012 Oh man, Oly problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bluehuricane Posted October 1, 2012 Author Members Share Posted October 1, 2012 pullman actually Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RadioSilence Posted October 1, 2012 Members Share Posted October 1, 2012 So you broke his skateboard? Think about it and make your own decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil O'Keefe Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 Let me ask this - how experienced is your friend at shaping and glassing boards? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RoboPimp Posted October 1, 2012 Members Share Posted October 1, 2012 you break it you buy it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members juri Posted October 1, 2012 Members Share Posted October 1, 2012 How much money are we talking about here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil O'Keefe Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 Wait - maybe I should back up and make sure we're on the same page. Is this a skateboard or surfboard? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members big69 Posted October 1, 2012 Members Share Posted October 1, 2012 Wait - maybe I should back up and make sure we're on the same page. Is this a skateboard or surfboard? skateboard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Poltergeist Posted October 1, 2012 Members Share Posted October 1, 2012 in the last three months or so i've offered 2 pedals to friends of mine. if they break them, there is not a single {censored} to be given. they're theirs now, not mine. that is bull{censored}. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Members Texas Noise Factory Posted October 1, 2012 Members Share Posted October 1, 2012 Pedal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members nomenclature Posted October 1, 2012 Members Share Posted October 1, 2012 if it was a structural weakness that was destined to fail though, should he have to pay for something that was going to break anyways? if you take a car for a test drive and the engine falls out, do you pay for it? on the same point, if he bought it from his friend and then it broke, would he be due a refund? if he was seriously injured should he sue for poor workmanship leading to injury? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members LSDis4me Posted October 1, 2012 Members Share Posted October 1, 2012 Here's the best advice you can get- Talk to him about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members goodhonk Posted October 1, 2012 Members Share Posted October 1, 2012 i'd like to hear his side of the story before entering a verdict. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bluehuricane Posted October 2, 2012 Author Members Share Posted October 2, 2012 his side of the story's about the same. the fault definitely isn't mine, it was the workmanship of the board. any person would have broken it, and had i been going faster i could have seriously injured myself. it's not that much money, and i'm not going to become enemies with him over it so it's as much up to him as it is to me. the board had around an hour of riding on it. i dunno what to feel. if i pay him the full amount i feel like i'm saying "thanks for making me a {censored}ty longboard" if i don't pay him anything it's like i'm saying "{censored} you for trying." also related, phil asked how experienced he is. he's built several boards and rides one that he built himself that is a very good board. but he told me after the fact that the last board he sold got his friend hurt and he didn't offer that guy anything in return. had i known that i probably would not have shown interest in the board at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members IRG Posted October 2, 2012 Members Share Posted October 2, 2012 What if there's a compromise, where he builds you a new board, (and hopefully better built) for an agreed upon price. I have no idea what they cost, or what's involved, but no way should you pay for something that breaks so quickly, especially when this is not the first time this has happened. If I bought a new pedal from someone on this forum and it broke within an hour, I would ask for my $ back, or expect them to fix it, or build me a new one. Same applies here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members guitardustin Posted October 2, 2012 Members Share Posted October 2, 2012 lol normally when I make a waaay off-topic thread I throw in an apology and explanation of some sort. THIS ISN'T ASKJEEVES BRO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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