Members MRscratch Posted November 1, 2009 Members Share Posted November 1, 2009 Your English is sketchy but yes, you are correct. is my spelling bad? i thought i had spell check:confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MRscratch Posted November 1, 2009 Members Share Posted November 1, 2009 as far as least compressed, id say a roland jazz chorus, or a polytone. jazz amps with solid state front ends. when they clip, shows over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members thinkpad20 Posted November 1, 2009 Members Share Posted November 1, 2009 is my spelling bad? i thought i had spell check:confused: Just yanking your chain, but if I were to correct the post quoted it would go as follows: Am I wrong to say that we need a certain amount of compression in our amps? Isn't what creates overdrive the inability of a tube to amplify the input further which drives it into saturation? Think of that great Marshall sag. It cannot supply what is demanded of it! A bit better. Mostly it's issues of capitalization (first letters of sentences and I) and punctuation (isn't, not isnt) but that second sentence was just awkwardly worded. The last sentence as well. Don't sweat it dude Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members liamlw Posted November 1, 2009 Members Share Posted November 1, 2009 I really really like the level of compression on my JMP. It isn't too much, JUST right. Adding a boost to the amp when I've got the power tubes working had seems to add too much for me. Kills the dynamics and such. I haven't found a boost pedal that doesn't kill my dynamics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members thinkpad20 Posted November 1, 2009 Members Share Posted November 1, 2009 ^ well, boost pedals generally have a certain degree of compression to them in general, and that's often desirable for what they are used for. But if you want a really dynamic (IMO) boost pedal I think the Fulldrive and the BB Preamp are both very good. IMO again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MRscratch Posted November 1, 2009 Members Share Posted November 1, 2009 Just yanking your chain, but if I were to correct the post quoted it would go as follows: Am I wrong to say that we need a certain amount of compression in our amps? Isn't what creates overdrive the inability of a tube to amplify the input further which drives it into saturation? Think of that great Marshall sag. It cannot supply what is demanded of it! A bit better. Mostly it's issues of capitalization (first letters of sentences and I) and punctuation (isn't, not isnt) but that second sentence was just awkwardly worded. The last sentence as well. Don't sweat it dude no sweat, as long as it wasnt totally wrong. im 42 , a construction worker, i havent had much reason to write, or spell! you should see me write:lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members spoonie g Posted November 1, 2009 Members Share Posted November 1, 2009 I really really like the level of compression on my JMP. It isn't too much, JUST right. Adding a boost to the amp when I've got the power tubes working had seems to add too much for me. Kills the dynamics and such. I haven't found a boost pedal that doesn't kill my dynamics Yeah, this is why I don't like boost pedals much, especially with my 2204. It screws up the "feel." The RC Booster is the best I've found, but it still does it to a degree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fretless Posted November 1, 2009 Members Share Posted November 1, 2009 Time to review your Classic Rock 101. :poke: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JoJo68 Posted November 1, 2009 Members Share Posted November 1, 2009 My matamp gto 120 is the loosest amp I've ever played. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jnurp Posted November 1, 2009 Members Share Posted November 1, 2009 Engl Invader Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members imgooley Posted November 1, 2009 Members Share Posted November 1, 2009 Compression = loud notes and silent notes all come out of the amp the same volume. In other words your picking dynamics don't make that much of an impact. Exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members imgooley Posted November 1, 2009 Members Share Posted November 1, 2009 Well that's one definition of it, yes. A 100% compressed tone has everything at the same volume (except absolute silence). However, the way distortion works on a waveform is by chopping off the peaks of the amplitude of the input signal - which, when you think about it, is compression, because if it weren't for the distortion (clipping) the wave-form's amplitude would be greater. Hence, you can't have distortion without compression. That was what I meant (and I presume what imgooley meant too). And this too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members peavey_impact Posted November 1, 2009 Members Share Posted November 1, 2009 I think my Deliverance is extremely uncompressed. Every note rings through loud and clear and it responds to your attack in a really interesting way. Playing that amp is a workout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members vaprogger Posted November 1, 2009 Members Share Posted November 1, 2009 I agree that the Roland JC line is uncompressed. Of my Fender tube amps, I think the PA 135 is the most uncompressed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members petejt Posted November 2, 2009 Author Members Share Posted November 2, 2009 I agree that the Roland JC line is uncompressed.Of my Fender tube amps, I think the PA 135 is the most uncompressed. Going on that, would owing a Roland Jazz Chorus and an Engl Fireball be on opposite ends of the compression spectrum? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TurboRotary13b Posted November 2, 2009 Members Share Posted November 2, 2009 I think my Deliverance is extremely uncompressed. Every note rings through loud and clear and it responds to your attack in a really interesting way. Playing that amp is a workout Yeah VHTs are pretty uncompressed amps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members duncan Posted November 2, 2009 Members Share Posted November 2, 2009 Vox AC30 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MRscratch Posted November 2, 2009 Members Share Posted November 2, 2009 Vox AC30really? i would think that that ac30 going into total meltdown would be compressed! brian may's sound sure sounds compressed, of course , he probably used a compressor:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members PurpleStain Posted November 2, 2009 Members Share Posted November 2, 2009 Vox AC30 AC30's are famous for being super compressed. Try again, Duncan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members potaetoes Posted November 2, 2009 Members Share Posted November 2, 2009 hi-fi and compressed are sorta mutually exclusive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members pak1351 Posted November 2, 2009 Members Share Posted November 2, 2009 Don't turn anything up too loud and you'll be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members grumphh Posted November 2, 2009 Members Share Posted November 2, 2009 As several others already have stated: Distortion is compression. There is no such thing as an overdriven amp that is not compressed. And in fact there are not many guitar amps that even when played clean do not compress the signal.Compression is a desirable trait in a guitar amp. If you want to hear an uncompressed electric guitar signal run the guitar straight into a mixer - or into your home stereo.Basically without compression what you get is a distorted/clipping attack and hardly any sustain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members the_bleeding Posted November 2, 2009 Members Share Posted November 2, 2009 If you want to hear an uncompressed electric guitar signal run the guitar straight into a mixer - or into your home stereo. Basically without compression what you get is a distorted/clipping attack and hardly any sustain. :facepalm: clipping is compression. uncompressed would be very clean guitar signal with absolutely NO clipping whatsoever. Pick soft, it plays soft. Pick hard, it gets much louder. Fender Twin comes to mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members grumphh Posted November 2, 2009 Members Share Posted November 2, 2009 :facepalm: clipping is compression. uncompressed would be very clean guitar signal with absolutely NO clipping whatsoever. Pick soft, it plays soft. Pick hard, it gets much louder. Fender Twin comes to mind. True - i worded it wrongly. What i was trying to describe was the difficulty in amplifying a totally uncompressed/non-clipping guitar signal. The initial attack level of a plucked string is very strong and has a rapid decay to its rather low sustain level so balancing that out on a non-compressing amp (home stereo/mixer input) either results in pretty much inaudible sustain or a distorted attack. And although a clean guitar amp certainly is much less compressed than an overdriven one, even a Twin compresses the signal significantly compared to amps that are designed for transparent amplification. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members timmyfirst Posted November 2, 2009 Members Share Posted November 2, 2009 The orange AD30HTC i had was very open sounding, even with a boost in the front end the sound was very natural and true to the guitar used. Great sound, just not really suitable for the band i play in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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