Members petejt Posted October 31, 2009 Members Share Posted October 31, 2009 Diezel's VH4 amplifier is heralded as being very hi-fi (?) and compresed-sounding in its nature.... Well then, what guitar amp is the reverse of that? UNcompressed? Lo-fi? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sahlomonic Posted October 31, 2009 Members Share Posted October 31, 2009 Well, by process of elimination . . . The Peavey XXX is not one of the most uncompressed amps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members gt_jumper Posted October 31, 2009 Members Share Posted October 31, 2009 Classic 50 is quite dynamic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members petejt Posted October 31, 2009 Author Members Share Posted October 31, 2009 Classic 50 is quite dynamic. The Peavey? So, you are saying that dynamic is the reverse of 'compressed'? I think so..cool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members gt_jumper Posted October 31, 2009 Members Share Posted October 31, 2009 The Peavey?So, you are saying that dynamic is the reverse of 'compressed'? I think so..cool yeah dude, you can have very tight, full saturated distortion with a high output bridge pickup, the switch to the neck and not strum as hard for decent cleans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fretless Posted October 31, 2009 Members Share Posted October 31, 2009 I would think the less compressed the more hi-fi . when I think of hi-fi I think of solid state poweramps . A good tube amp will saturate when driven and you will get a desirable compression . If it's not pushed into overdrive like say a Ampeg V4 or some other high powered amp it may be more hi-fi . I tend to think most amps are hi-fi comparred to those old ass tube radios , anything with full Frequency response should fall under that term , comparred to those old radios , since we are talking about guitar amps , I would say something SS like a JC120 or a H&H poweramp or any ss amp really . Any cold biased amp or high powered thing that isn't overdriven probably won't give up the compressed feel . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members suparsonic Posted October 31, 2009 Members Share Posted October 31, 2009 SLO is up there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members thinkpad20 Posted October 31, 2009 Members Share Posted October 31, 2009 Depends on what you mean by less compressed. Plugging straight into a P.A. will be VERY uncompressed, but that doesn't mean it's gonna sound good. Any amount of distortion will also act as compression; it's just physics... But if you're asking what I think you're asking, for high gain that still retains dynamics, you probably looking at a Marshall or Soldano or the like. Mesas, Engls, Peaveys and Diezels (with the exception of the Einstein) tend to be on the more compressed side. IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members eric_kv2 Posted October 31, 2009 Members Share Posted October 31, 2009 I would say something like a splawn quickrod, vht cl, or a soldano slo. I couldn't call them lo-fi though just uncompressed sounding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members petejt Posted October 31, 2009 Author Members Share Posted October 31, 2009 yeah dude, you can have very tight, full saturated distortion with a high output bridge pickup, the switch to the neck and not strum as hard for decent cleans. Ah ok. I realise now that I do that already, but didn't correlate the term. Cheers Personally I reckon all guitar amps should be at least somewhat dynamic. Whenever I dial up a gainy tone I still just switch to the neck and play softer for clean tones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members gt_jumper Posted October 31, 2009 Members Share Posted October 31, 2009 sorry but im turpsed and its sat night! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members petejt Posted October 31, 2009 Author Members Share Posted October 31, 2009 Depends on what you mean by less compressed. Plugging straight into a P.A. will be VERY uncompressed, but that doesn't mean it's gonna sound good. Any amount of distortion will also act as compression; it's just physics... But if you're asking what I think you're asking, for high gain that still retains dynamics, you probably looking at a Marshall or Soldano or the like. Mesas, Engls, Peaveys and Diezels (with the exception of the Einstein) tend to be on the more compressed side. IMO. alrighty But when you say "Mesa", does that just mean the Recto amps or the Mark series Mesa/Boogie amps too? My MarkIV does compress a bit but I can wring out of it clean tones while still on the cranked Lead channel if I play softer and roll down the guitar's volume a bit. At the mention of Marshalls, that reminds me of AC/DC's TNT album - awesome tones [YOUTUBE]BD6v-cSbrpc[/YOUTUBE] I don't know why they say it's on the "High Voltage" album? wtf? It's on the 1975 TNT album!! [YOUTUBE]RW2heKjzjIA[/YOUTUBE] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members petejt Posted October 31, 2009 Author Members Share Posted October 31, 2009 sorry but im turpsed and its sat night! I'm supposed to be turpsed! But I got a blasted throat infection, me nose is running like a tap now, I'm at work, and when I did head out to get on the piss with some old workmates at the pub down the road (130km down the road mind you...) they didn't show up even after two hours So I'm on the 'net instead, contemplating this stuff. damn my head feels compressed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members petejt Posted October 31, 2009 Author Members Share Posted October 31, 2009 I would say something like a splawn quickrod, vht cl, or a soldano slo. I couldn't call them lo-fi though just uncompressed sounding. cool. Well then, what amps would be lo-fi? I guess it'd be cheap {censored}e like Gorilla? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members gt_jumper Posted October 31, 2009 Members Share Posted October 31, 2009 I'm supposed to be turpsed! But I got a blasted throat infection, me nose is running like a tap now, I'm at work, and when I did head out to get on the piss with some old workmates at the pub down the road (130km down the road mind you...) they didn't show up even after two hours So I'm on the 'net instead, contemplating this stuff. damn my head feels compressed My condolences, no one should have to deal with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members eric_kv2 Posted October 31, 2009 Members Share Posted October 31, 2009 cool.Well then, what amps would be lo-fi? I guess it'd be cheap {censored}e like Gorilla? Yeah, that's what I would say. Basically an amp where you can not hear the notes you play (no clarity). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fretless Posted October 31, 2009 Members Share Posted October 31, 2009 yeah that and maybe a Smokey , or ripped speaker . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BusterBuster Posted October 31, 2009 Members Share Posted October 31, 2009 I don't have a lot of experience with today's amps but the Hiwatt 100 watt was pretty clean and uncompressed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members petejt Posted October 31, 2009 Author Members Share Posted October 31, 2009 My condolences, no one should have to deal with that. thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members guitarcapo Posted October 31, 2009 Members Share Posted October 31, 2009 A very dynamic amp with lots of presence would be the Allesandro amps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members petejt Posted October 31, 2009 Author Members Share Posted October 31, 2009 yeah that and maybe a Smokey , or ripped speaker . Ripped? Like the tone on The Knack's You Really got Me? I think the guitarist ripped his speakers with a razor blade, ala Floyd Pinkerton decaying into a fascist in his mind then doing it to his eyebrows (and nipple ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members petejt Posted October 31, 2009 Author Members Share Posted October 31, 2009 I don't have a lot of experience with today's amps but the Hiwatt 100 watt was pretty clean and uncompressed. cool, thanks Hiwatts sound fantastic, I'd love to play one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sixtonoize Posted October 31, 2009 Members Share Posted October 31, 2009 The least compressed high-gainer that I've ever played is the VHT Ultra Lead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members almightycrunch Posted October 31, 2009 Members Share Posted October 31, 2009 Marshall Plexi EOT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cibyl Posted October 31, 2009 Members Share Posted October 31, 2009 Hiwatt DR504 or DR103. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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