Members notjonahbutnoah Posted September 13, 2012 Members Share Posted September 13, 2012 Man {censored} all this arguing. It's all hearsay until you try them out. I'd be really interested to hear them first hand. Might just pick up a set if they ever really release them. And yeah, AMT will price them fairly I reckon. I mean, they can't keep that wah in stock. It's waaay backordered and is only 120 bucks. They could probably get 175 or 200 easy for it, but there you go. If I were to speculate, I would guess around 20 bucks per power tube, maybe around 15 for the preamp ones, give or take a little. One thing I find interesting is that the matching and consistency could be exactly perfect with a pair of these. Would would be even cooler is if you could adjust their rating for fixed bias amps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members notjonahbutnoah Posted September 13, 2012 Members Share Posted September 13, 2012 Man {censored} all this arguing. It's all hearsay until you try them out. I'd be really interested to hear them first hand. Might just pick up a set if they ever really release them. And yeah, AMT will price them fairly I reckon. I mean, they can't keep that wah in stock. It's waaay backordered and is only 120 bucks. They could probably get 175 or 200 easy for it, but there you go. If I were to speculate, I would guess around 20 bucks per power tube, maybe around 15 for the preamp ones, give or take a little. One thing I find interesting is that the matching and consistency could be exactly perfect with a pair of these. Would would be even cooler is if you could adjust their rating for fixed bias amps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Spaced Out Ace Posted September 13, 2012 Members Share Posted September 13, 2012 Originally Posted by notjonahbutnoah Man {censored} all this arguing. It's all hearsay until you try them out. I'd be really interested to hear them first hand. Might just pick up a set if they ever really release them.And yeah, AMT will price them fairly I reckon. I mean, they can't keep that wah in stock. It's waaay backordered and is only 120 bucks. They could probably get 175 or 200 easy for it, but there you go. If I were to speculate, I would guess around 20 bucks per power tube, maybe around 15 for the preamp ones, give or take a little.One thing I find interesting is that the matching and consistency could be exactly perfect with a pair of these. Would would be even cooler is if you could adjust their rating for fixed bias amps. My guess is they'll be around the same price as the Retrovalves, maybe a little less, but that remains to be seen. If they are 15 or so for preamp tubes and sound good or at least comparable, the Retrovalves venture is a wash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Spaced Out Ace Posted September 13, 2012 Members Share Posted September 13, 2012 Originally Posted by notjonahbutnoah Man {censored} all this arguing. It's all hearsay until you try them out. I'd be really interested to hear them first hand. Might just pick up a set if they ever really release them.And yeah, AMT will price them fairly I reckon. I mean, they can't keep that wah in stock. It's waaay backordered and is only 120 bucks. They could probably get 175 or 200 easy for it, but there you go. If I were to speculate, I would guess around 20 bucks per power tube, maybe around 15 for the preamp ones, give or take a little.One thing I find interesting is that the matching and consistency could be exactly perfect with a pair of these. Would would be even cooler is if you could adjust their rating for fixed bias amps. My guess is they'll be around the same price as the Retrovalves, maybe a little less, but that remains to be seen. If they are 15 or so for preamp tubes and sound good or at least comparable, the Retrovalves venture is a wash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Travisaurus Rex Posted September 14, 2012 Author Members Share Posted September 14, 2012 FWIW, I have tried a lot of AMT pedals from the early stuff(which made me a fan) to their newer stuff. They build great sounding, high quality pedals that are more than reasonably priced. I would definitely like to hear a good comparison to the real thing. That guy Ola? should film a vid with them. It should however be a blind comparison though because some people will say they suck "just because" if they know before hand which is which. Can anyone decipher the graphs? What do they mean if relation to real tubes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Travisaurus Rex Posted September 14, 2012 Author Members Share Posted September 14, 2012 FWIW, I have tried a lot of AMT pedals from the early stuff(which made me a fan) to their newer stuff. They build great sounding, high quality pedals that are more than reasonably priced. I would definitely like to hear a good comparison to the real thing. That guy Ola? should film a vid with them. It should however be a blind comparison though because some people will say they suck "just because" if they know before hand which is which. Can anyone decipher the graphs? What do they mean if relation to real tubes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Nick H Posted September 14, 2012 Members Share Posted September 14, 2012 Originally Posted by NinjaRaf I dont think most people could tell the difference between modeler, SS, or tube on a professional recording, or even live assuming all are pretty high quality pieces of gear... I think you could tell a difference, but none would really be better or worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Nick H Posted September 14, 2012 Members Share Posted September 14, 2012 Originally Posted by NinjaRaf I dont think most people could tell the difference between modeler, SS, or tube on a professional recording, or even live assuming all are pretty high quality pieces of gear... I think you could tell a difference, but none would really be better or worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Members DeadNight Warrior Posted September 14, 2012 Members Share Posted September 14, 2012 Originally Posted by Spaced Out Ace The Stonehead? I think so... and it sounds pretty bad ass. Think I saw some people selling it on eBay. Son of a... once again, Australia... the {censored}hole of the guitar gear world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DeadNight Warrior Posted September 14, 2012 Members Share Posted September 14, 2012 Originally Posted by Spaced Out Ace The Stonehead? I think so... and it sounds pretty bad ass. Think I saw some people selling it on eBay. Son of a... once again, Australia... the {censored}hole of the guitar gear world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Travisaurus Rex Posted September 14, 2012 Author Members Share Posted September 14, 2012 Originally Posted by DeadNight Warrior Son of a... once again, Australia... the {censored}hole of the guitar gear world. If you don't mind the shipping, http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/AMT-Elect...#ht_1488wt_689 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Travisaurus Rex Posted September 14, 2012 Author Members Share Posted September 14, 2012 Originally Posted by DeadNight Warrior Son of a... once again, Australia... the {censored}hole of the guitar gear world. If you don't mind the shipping, http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/AMT-Elect...#ht_1488wt_689 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members madrigal77 Posted September 14, 2012 Members Share Posted September 14, 2012 Well, they look cool. I'll give them that. They certainly look a lot better than those glowing dildo Retrovalves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members madrigal77 Posted September 14, 2012 Members Share Posted September 14, 2012 Well, they look cool. I'll give them that. They certainly look a lot better than those glowing dildo Retrovalves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members madrigal77 Posted September 14, 2012 Members Share Posted September 14, 2012 Originally Posted by NinjaRaf Well, IME, my 5150 212 eats preamp tubes like crazy. Itd be worth it, for me, to buy a set for it because it does go through tubes fairly frequently, especially if you move the amp around in any frequency. Im not the only person thats found that, too, with this particular amp. Yep. Fiddies eat tubes for breakfast. I'm haven't had my III long enough to tell if it's the same yet in that regard, but I hope not. It has 8 preamp tubes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members madrigal77 Posted September 14, 2012 Members Share Posted September 14, 2012 Originally Posted by NinjaRaf Well, IME, my 5150 212 eats preamp tubes like crazy. Itd be worth it, for me, to buy a set for it because it does go through tubes fairly frequently, especially if you move the amp around in any frequency. Im not the only person thats found that, too, with this particular amp. Yep. Fiddies eat tubes for breakfast. I'm haven't had my III long enough to tell if it's the same yet in that regard, but I hope not. It has 8 preamp tubes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members notjonahbutnoah Posted September 14, 2012 Members Share Posted September 14, 2012 Originally Posted by madrigal77 Yep. Fiddies eat tubes for breakfast. I'm haven't had my III long enough to tell if it's the same yet in that regard, but I hope not. It has 8 preamp tubes Whoooooa there. That thing has 8 preamp tubes? *googles* Mother{censored}. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members notjonahbutnoah Posted September 14, 2012 Members Share Posted September 14, 2012 Originally Posted by madrigal77 Yep. Fiddies eat tubes for breakfast. I'm haven't had my III long enough to tell if it's the same yet in that regard, but I hope not. It has 8 preamp tubes Whoooooa there. That thing has 8 preamp tubes? *googles* Mother{censored}. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DeadNight Warrior Posted September 14, 2012 Members Share Posted September 14, 2012 Originally Posted by Travisaurus Rex If you don't mind the shipping, http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/AMT-Elect...#ht_1488wt_689 Yeah, I saw that right after SOA posted that he'd seen them on Ebay. Anyone know if AMT's "Power 220 or 110V" refers to different power supplies for different regions, or a switching power supply?Not that I'm really looking for an amp at the moment, given that I'm most likely not far from losing my job. But it'd be nice to have a small, simple, SS alternative to lugging my rack around all the time. 5kg? My rack without anything in it weighs three times that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DeadNight Warrior Posted September 14, 2012 Members Share Posted September 14, 2012 Originally Posted by Travisaurus Rex If you don't mind the shipping, http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/AMT-Elect...#ht_1488wt_689 Yeah, I saw that right after SOA posted that he'd seen them on Ebay. Anyone know if AMT's "Power 220 or 110V" refers to different power supplies for different regions, or a switching power supply?Not that I'm really looking for an amp at the moment, given that I'm most likely not far from losing my job. But it'd be nice to have a small, simple, SS alternative to lugging my rack around all the time. 5kg? My rack without anything in it weighs three times that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rushtallica Posted September 14, 2012 Members Share Posted September 14, 2012 Originally Posted by teemuk Accurate tube emulations have been employed in solid-state amps for ages so why does anyone actually even need a tube amp today. ...even less, a tube amp with solid-state devices emulating tubes - like in solid-state amps. I don't have a lot of money to spend on gear and would love to use SS gear exclusively if I dug them as much as my tube amps. A favorite was the Sansamp PSA-1 pre, and following that would be the Ampeg VH140C and Randall RG series. I definitely prefer all my tube amps, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rushtallica Posted September 14, 2012 Members Share Posted September 14, 2012 Originally Posted by teemuk Accurate tube emulations have been employed in solid-state amps for ages so why does anyone actually even need a tube amp today. ...even less, a tube amp with solid-state devices emulating tubes - like in solid-state amps. I don't have a lot of money to spend on gear and would love to use SS gear exclusively if I dug them as much as my tube amps. A favorite was the Sansamp PSA-1 pre, and following that would be the Ampeg VH140C and Randall RG series. I definitely prefer all my tube amps, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Hotcakes Posted September 14, 2012 Members Share Posted September 14, 2012 I'm getting on the AMT train soon. {censored} sounds great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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