Members TheKrabsman Posted December 30, 2012 Members Share Posted December 30, 2012 Rock music/metal has been on the downturn in the past decades due to a fairly relativistic reason: rap music and hip-hop have taken over and provided true innovation. Not to say some battle of the genres is how we should think about music, but the freshest sounds since the eighties have come from rappers. Sure, they "just sample" (which isn't the only thing that is going on most of the time) but I look at it this way: all the totally {censored} classic rock music from the mid seventies onward is just some guitar god trying to put terrible lyrics to the same handful of chord progressions, with no grooving at all. The best rap has grooves, different progressions and just listen to A Tribe Called Quest for an example of damn impressive writing/delivery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Caulk Rocket Posted December 30, 2012 Members Share Posted December 30, 2012 The only hip hop artist as prolific as Devin Townsend is Kool Keith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Caulk Rocket Posted December 30, 2012 Members Share Posted December 30, 2012 The only hip hop artist as prolific as Devin Townsend is Kool Keith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members wok Posted December 30, 2012 Members Share Posted December 30, 2012 Originally Posted by TheKrabsman Rock music/metal has been on the downturn in the past decades due to a fairly relativistic reason: rap music and hip-hop have taken over and provided true innovation. Not to say some battle of the genres is how we should think about music, but the freshest sounds since the eighties have come from rappers. Sure, they "just sample" (which isn't the only thing that is going on most of the time) but I look at it this way: all the totally {censored} classic rock music from the mid seventies onward is just some guitar god trying to put terrible lyrics to the same handful of chord progressions, with no grooving at all. The best rap has grooves, different progressions and just listen to A Tribe Called Quest for an example of damn impressive writing/delivery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members wok Posted December 30, 2012 Members Share Posted December 30, 2012 Originally Posted by TheKrabsman Rock music/metal has been on the downturn in the past decades due to a fairly relativistic reason: rap music and hip-hop have taken over and provided true innovation. Not to say some battle of the genres is how we should think about music, but the freshest sounds since the eighties have come from rappers. Sure, they "just sample" (which isn't the only thing that is going on most of the time) but I look at it this way: all the totally {censored} classic rock music from the mid seventies onward is just some guitar god trying to put terrible lyrics to the same handful of chord progressions, with no grooving at all. The best rap has grooves, different progressions and just listen to A Tribe Called Quest for an example of damn impressive writing/delivery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Nick H Posted December 30, 2012 Members Share Posted December 30, 2012 Originally Posted by TheKrabsman Rock music/metal has been on the downturn in the past decades due to a fairly relativistic reason: rap music and hip-hop have taken over and provided true innovation. Not to say some battle of the genres is how we should think about music, but the freshest sounds since the eighties have come from rappers. Sure, they "just sample" (which isn't the only thing that is going on most of the time) but I look at it this way: all the totally {censored} classic rock music from the mid seventies onward is just some guitar god trying to put terrible lyrics to the same handful of chord progressions, with no grooving at all. The best rap has grooves, different progressions and just listen to A Tribe Called Quest for an example of damn impressive writing/delivery. trolololololllolololloloooo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Nick H Posted December 30, 2012 Members Share Posted December 30, 2012 Originally Posted by TheKrabsman Rock music/metal has been on the downturn in the past decades due to a fairly relativistic reason: rap music and hip-hop have taken over and provided true innovation. Not to say some battle of the genres is how we should think about music, but the freshest sounds since the eighties have come from rappers. Sure, they "just sample" (which isn't the only thing that is going on most of the time) but I look at it this way: all the totally {censored} classic rock music from the mid seventies onward is just some guitar god trying to put terrible lyrics to the same handful of chord progressions, with no grooving at all. The best rap has grooves, different progressions and just listen to A Tribe Called Quest for an example of damn impressive writing/delivery. trolololololllolololloloooo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members kmanick Posted December 31, 2012 Members Share Posted December 31, 2012 Originally Posted by MadKeithV Is this supposed to be an example of a ballsy strong voice? 'cause it sounds like James LaBrie. James LaBrie??? really I love DT but I think this guy smokes LaBrie. He can mix up the clean with death metal or black metal vocals. I don't know if I'd say he has a ballsy voice but (to me anyway) he sure doesn't sound like an emo {censored} like a lot of the metal guys do when they try to sing clean. He does la,la it up a bit in places (I think he's a big Freddie mercury fan, sounds it anyway) but I think the way he sings the verses in this tune is great (and I'm not really much of a fan of these guys, but i do like this tune). As far as metal bands with actual singers I think these guys are near the top (this is the band got me back into metal and turned me on to 7 string guitars) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members kmanick Posted December 31, 2012 Members Share Posted December 31, 2012 Originally Posted by MadKeithV Is this supposed to be an example of a ballsy strong voice? 'cause it sounds like James LaBrie. James LaBrie??? really I love DT but I think this guy smokes LaBrie. He can mix up the clean with death metal or black metal vocals. I don't know if I'd say he has a ballsy voice but (to me anyway) he sure doesn't sound like an emo {censored} like a lot of the metal guys do when they try to sing clean. He does la,la it up a bit in places (I think he's a big Freddie mercury fan, sounds it anyway) but I think the way he sings the verses in this tune is great (and I'm not really much of a fan of these guys, but i do like this tune). As far as metal bands with actual singers I think these guys are near the top (this is the band got me back into metal and turned me on to 7 string guitars) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bucksstudent Posted December 31, 2012 Members Share Posted December 31, 2012 Originally Posted by ComOp I can enjoy just about every music ever made, at least in part... The exception for me is that Derek Baily improv jazz {censored}. Modern cookie monster Metal may not seem very musical compared to your music of choice, but it does still have basic musical structure unlike this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ow-YPRq-t8A Except that isn't meant to be jazz. Derek Bailey is an acquired taste. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bucksstudent Posted December 31, 2012 Members Share Posted December 31, 2012 Originally Posted by ComOp I can enjoy just about every music ever made, at least in part... The exception for me is that Derek Baily improv jazz {censored}. Modern cookie monster Metal may not seem very musical compared to your music of choice, but it does still have basic musical structure unlike this: Except that isn't meant to be jazz. Derek Bailey is an acquired taste. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mogwix Posted December 31, 2012 Members Share Posted December 31, 2012 Originally Posted by Caulk Rocket The only hip hop artist as prolific as Devin Townsend is Kool Keith. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aq2WVDESAS4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mogwix Posted December 31, 2012 Members Share Posted December 31, 2012 Originally Posted by Caulk Rocket The only hip hop artist as prolific as Devin Townsend is Kool Keith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MadKeithV Posted December 31, 2012 Members Share Posted December 31, 2012 Originally Posted by wok sorry, but the vocals turn it into quasi-powermetal cheese It's the lame, exaggerated vibrato... AND THE DRAGON COMES IN THE NIIIiIIIIIIIIiiiiIIIIIIIIGHT1-! That being said, cheesy powermetal can rock, I surprised the bejeezus out of myself by enjoying Hammerfall live a few years back. A sense of humour and a bit of wit goes a long way for cheesy music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MadKeithV Posted December 31, 2012 Members Share Posted December 31, 2012 Originally Posted by wok nope, never heard it. anyway, I love singing, i HATE cheesy powermetal falsetto Judas Priest/Iron Maiden imitation singing. To me, THIS is fantastic powerful singing: Wow. Just... wow. I LOVED that.... The tones, the vocals, the song structure. I suddenly hear where Textures get some of their inspiration BRB, buying a bunch of Devin CDs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members hugbot Posted December 31, 2012 Members Share Posted December 31, 2012 OP have you heard of a band called Linkin Park? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members wok Posted December 31, 2012 Members Share Posted December 31, 2012 Originally Posted by hugbot OP have you heard of a band called Linkin Park? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members chad_sux Posted December 31, 2012 Members Share Posted December 31, 2012 One of my favorite vocalist of recent memory, aside from Russel Allen (who is on another stratosphere) is Christian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rushtallica Posted January 1, 2013 Members Share Posted January 1, 2013 Originally Posted by MadKeithV Wow. Just... wow. I LOVED that.... The tones, the vocals, the song structure. I suddenly hear where Textures get some of their inspiration BRB, buying a bunch of Devin CDs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members EdgeOfDarkness Posted January 1, 2013 Members Share Posted January 1, 2013 suck it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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