Members M-1 Fan Posted January 2, 2007 Members Share Posted January 2, 2007 Why is there currently only one on the market? Digitech used to have three of them in production, now they don't have any. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members shniggens Posted January 2, 2007 Members Share Posted January 2, 2007 I don't know, but love my Digitech! I like the doubling feature. Harmonies sound robotic, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members satannica Posted January 2, 2007 Members Share Posted January 2, 2007 Recommend me a good harmoinizer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil O'Keefe Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 Originally posted by satannica Recommend me a good harmoinizer Eventide Eclipse? H8000? If you have the means... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mike McLenison Posted January 3, 2007 Members Share Posted January 3, 2007 I got the Helicon Voiceworks. I had 3 Digitechs (Workstation/Studio Rackmount/Original). The Helicon is a step up. Much better especially in the lower register. There is also a "hold" function that's useful. The chip was designed by the same company Digitech had used. http://www.musiciansfriend.com/home/navigation?q=helicon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rasputin1963 Posted January 3, 2007 Members Share Posted January 3, 2007 In the early 90's I used to perform live with my DIGITECH!! How I loved it. It sure did mystify a lot of folks when rich harmonies came outta one guy... I used to run the DigiTech through a chorus and a reverb which, together, did much to soften the "robotic" quality of the harmonies. My favorite thing to do was to try to emulate the 1940's sound of The Pied Pipers. I also loved to play the coda of The Carpenters "Close To You" in rich harmonies: "WAHHHH--AAHHH-AHH...CLOSE TO YEW-W-W-W" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members S.L.B. Posted January 3, 2007 Members Share Posted January 3, 2007 Originally posted by satannica Recommend me a good harmoinizer T.C. Helicon Vocal Prism Plus Sounds great but starting to get a bit pricey maybe....depends on what you want to spend I suppose.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MDLMUSIC Posted January 3, 2007 Members Share Posted January 3, 2007 I use the Digitech Vocalist Performer with my oldies/classic rock trio where I am the only singer. Does a great job as long as the harmonizing is not overused. I keep it set kind of low, but it is definitely there and it definintely adds a lot to the performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Lucky #9 Posted January 3, 2007 Members Share Posted January 3, 2007 On the Yamaha PSR-740 keyboard or the Yamaha add-in card that does about the same thing? Reason I ask is I've got a Yamaha MU-128 that I've got to force myself to learn and it accepts the Yamaha board for harmonizing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Magpel Posted January 3, 2007 Members Share Posted January 3, 2007 My preference is the exorbitantly expensive and hard-to-find Garfunklizer, which employs intelligent voice-leading algorithms to transcend the robotic parallelism of most machine generated harmonies. It's a bit erratic and hard to master, however, and, by the terms of the license, you have to give the Garfunklizer co-writing credits on your tunes. Apparently, the unit has been burned in the past when people have used it generate a harmony, then thrown away the original melody and promoted the harmony to main melody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members M-1 Fan Posted January 3, 2007 Author Members Share Posted January 3, 2007 Anyone remember the MXR Pitch Transposer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members satannica Posted January 3, 2007 Members Share Posted January 3, 2007 Well, to cut a long story short, I need an effect that I've never been able to match. I got this song for my band and the vocals really need that something. And I know what I want, its just getting it. Download the song "Where the Slime Live" by Morbid Angel. That's the exact sound I want for the vocal... I may take a chance on the Digitech VX400... what do we think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members KB Gunn Posted January 5, 2007 Members Share Posted January 5, 2007 I enjoy the TCHelicon VoiceWorks. I sequence on the Triton Extreme 88. When I trigger the VW, it harmonizes, when I don't, I am singing solo. Very useful in live performance. Here is an example http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UA8REDRiK5E Kenny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members M-1 Fan Posted January 5, 2007 Author Members Share Posted January 5, 2007 Originally posted by KB Gunn I enjoy the TCHelicon VoiceWorks. I sequence on the Triton Extreme 88. When I trigger the VW, it harmonizes, when I don't, I am singing solo. Very useful in live performance.Here is an examplehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UA8REDRiK5EKenny How does that compare to the Digitech Vocalist? With the Vocalist, I have to punch in the key for the harmony and of course some harmony notes don't sound right some times. The VW sits on the floor, the Vocalist is up at arm's length. If I buy a VW will I get tired of bending over all the time for each different song? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members KB Gunn Posted January 5, 2007 Members Share Posted January 5, 2007 Originally posted by M-1 Fan How does that compare to the Digitech Vocalist? With the Vocalist, I have to punch in the key for the harmony and of course some harmony notes don't sound right some times. The VW sits on the floor, the Vocalist is up at arm's length. If I buy a VW will I get tired of bending over all the time for each different song? The VoiceWorks is a rack mount unit. They may have a floor unit that I am not aware of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members spokane Posted September 16, 2008 Members Share Posted September 16, 2008 Hi Guys/Gals, I'm a newbie which will shortly become self evident. I bought The Digitech vocalist 4 earlier this year and used on 2 live performances, we rehearse/jam more than we play! What a fantastic piece of kit, easy to use and completely flexible. I'm the bass player in the band so simply singing the melody line while the rhythm/ lead guitarist and singer belts out the tune and the Vocalist 4 does the harmonies making me look real good! The guitarist wants to add in a distortion pedal but is relying on me to wire it in sequence for him. Do I understand the instructions correctly, guitar into Vocalist 4, then thru to effects pedal, then from effects pedal to fender amp? Apologies if this question is posted in the wrong place but I really don't want to toast my new toy!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rasputin1963 Posted September 16, 2008 Members Share Posted September 16, 2008 spokane, here's what I used to love to perform live, using my Digitech Harmonizer. Always mystified everybody, haha. O3a8U0dPwaE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members techristian Posted September 17, 2008 Members Share Posted September 17, 2008 I'm using a Helicon Quintet and actually plan on using it AS THE MAIN INSTRUMENT in my next CD by triggering harmonies with a MIDI keyboard while singing. Dan http://teachmedrums.com/quintet.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members spokane Posted September 17, 2008 Members Share Posted September 17, 2008 Hi Rasputin, absolutely loved that. When I set up the digitech for the first time the guitarist and I were getting great results on the first night in his home until the wee small hours. I went to bed with the manual as you do and discovered the setting which transposes a male voice to a female but didn't tell my pal that I had pre-selected this so when suggested to him that he should try Jolene the look on his face when he heard Dolly parton coming right back at him through the speakers was priceless. Thanks for your response, this a truly wonderful piece of gear. p.s. I like what I see in Beaux Arts. Cheers Spokane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Lucky #9 Posted September 17, 2008 Members Share Posted September 17, 2008 Hi Guys/Gals, I'm a newbie which will shortly become self evident. I bought The Digitech vocalist 4 earlier this year and used on 2 live performances, we rehearse/jam more than we play! What a fantastic piece of kit, easy to use and completely flexible. I'm the bass player in the band so simply singing the melody line while the rhythm/ lead guitarist and singer belts out the tune and the Vocalist 4 does the harmonies making me look real good!The guitarist wants to add in a distortion pedal but is relying on me to wire it in sequence for him. Do I understand the instructions correctly, guitar into Vocalist 4, then thru to effects pedal, then from effects pedal to fender amp?Apologies if this question is posted in the wrong place but I really don't want to toast my new toy!! The Digitech units (chatter about them, tips, etc.) are reviewed in the Pro Reviews in Craig's forum section and there is also a long thread on one of the units in another forum here at HC. Do a search and you should find it easily. Lots of good tips in both places. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Lee Knight Posted September 17, 2008 Moderators Share Posted September 17, 2008 My preference is the exorbitantly expensive and hard-to-find Garfunklizer, which employs intelligent voice-leading algorithms to transcend the robotic parallelism of most machine generated harmonies. It's a bit erratic and hard to master, however, and, by the terms of the license, you have to give the Garfunklizer co-writing credits on your tunes. Apparently, the unit has been burned in the past when people have used it generate a harmony, then thrown away the original melody and promoted the harmony to main melody. And the things it would do to your hair... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members spokane Posted September 17, 2008 Members Share Posted September 17, 2008 The Digitech units (chatter about them, tips, etc.) are reviewed in the Pro Reviews in Craig's forum section and there is also a long thread on one of the units in another forum here at HC. Do a search and you should find it easily. Lots of good tips in both places. Hi Lucky #9, thanks for pointing me in the right direction, Craigs threads are exactly what I needed. Spokane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sonic Jedi Posted September 17, 2008 Members Share Posted September 17, 2008 Why is there currently only one on the market? Digitech used to have three of them in production, now they don't have any. Well, the original post was a long time ago, but now they have 3 on the market: VL2 - This one does unison's, 3rds and 5ths above and below your voice with the key determined from a sidechain guitar input VL4 - Basically the same with more effects and processing options it can do to the voice, more harmony voices (4 instead of 2) and harmony modes, and it can mix the guitar signal in as well (with some basic guitar effects). VLPro - Does anything the VL4 does (besides mixing in the guitar signal) and it can take the Harmonies off MIDI. Can do the "Notes" harmony method (where what you play on the keyboard are the harmonies that come out of the unit) each one has a pretty long thread on it if you search the forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rhat Posted September 17, 2008 Members Share Posted September 17, 2008 I am with a trio that has two lead singers. Its with a guy and his wife. He runs the 4 and she has a 2. I play keys for them. All i know is the vocals are awsome. Smoke and mirrors , sure, In the hands of two great singers ,, it makes for a good show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Michael Blue Posted September 18, 2008 Members Share Posted September 18, 2008 I have the MIDI Vocalist, and I love it....But I'm certain that Voice Prism is much better! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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