Members Etienne Rambert Posted July 29, 2009 Members Share Posted July 29, 2009 I needed space in my music room/bedroom. 4 guitars on stands were taking up too much floor space. So I started looking for a solution. Voila! I have bars on the insides of my windows. There is about 3"-4" space between the window and the bar. That's just enough for me to jam the top of my guitar stand tight between the window and the steel bar. Here is what I came up with. The weight of the guitar pushes the top of the stand against the bar. Thus, insuring it won't fall. It's a pretty neat solution to my floor space problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members irishstu Posted July 29, 2009 Members Share Posted July 29, 2009 Ummm... good luck with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Citizen_Insane Posted July 29, 2009 Members Share Posted July 29, 2009 Looks pretty cool....but I'd probably use some zip ties to secure those stands, I'd hate for one to fall to an early demise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rhancox Posted July 29, 2009 Members Share Posted July 29, 2009 Any direct sunlight ever come through those windows? That wouldn't be good, even with those curtains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members roughtrade Posted July 29, 2009 Members Share Posted July 29, 2009 Direct sunlight and people being able to see your guitars would bother me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rhancox Posted July 29, 2009 Members Share Posted July 29, 2009 Direct sunlight and people being able to see your guitars would bother me. Gotta agree with this. Why not just put a sign in the window and leave the door unlocked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members garthman Posted July 29, 2009 Members Share Posted July 29, 2009 I tie a piece of chord around the headstock just behind the nut and hang them from a hook screwed into the wall. Works fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Etienne Rambert Posted July 29, 2009 Author Members Share Posted July 29, 2009 rhancox: "Any direct sunlight ever come through those windows That wouldn't be good, even with those curtains." roughtrade: "Direct sunlight and people being able to see your guitars would bother me." Good thoughts. But I have neither. I don't have direct sunlight because when I moved in, I had the landlord put opaque adhesive covering over every window. I thought the light was too bright. Because of that, I can't see out and nobody can see in. Yet sunlight still gets through. I keep the curtains drawn most of the time anyway. These guitar stands have a plastic or rubber lip at the top. And they have a cross-bar that folds in the middle. I've been able to situate it so that the rubber lip is jammed over the top of one steel bar and the crossbar is resting on a lower steel bar. The weight of the guitar reinforces both. Brilliant. I got to say. But it only works with steel bars INSIDE your windows, spaced certain distances apart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members WashburnGuy Posted July 29, 2009 Members Share Posted July 29, 2009 ...hmmmmmm.......I'm not so sure I'd put all my eggs in that basket! Looks pretty precarious! I see the potential for LOTS of problems as previously mentioned!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frets99 Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 But, of course, I'm all about western justice!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Etienne Rambert Posted July 29, 2009 Author Members Share Posted July 29, 2009 You're correct. It's best to err on the side of caution. I'll tie the top of each stand to one of the steel bars above it. I don't think it's necessary. And it may even be counter-productive in terms of the physics. The physics of it are: 1. The weight of the guitar pulls the cross piece of the stand away from the steel window bar it's wedged on - away from the window. 2. The force from the cross piece pushing away from the window pushes the top in the opposite direction - toward the window, over the steel bar it's already wedged against. Cross piece of guitar stand --->Pushes out - slightly in the direction away from the steel bars and window. This force causes the top of the guitar stand to push inward, wedging even further over the steel bar, toward the window. Top of guitar stand Force = Cross piece of guitar stand force = -----> from weight of guitar. The physics are pretty good. I'm impressed. All I had to do was securely wedge the top of the guitar stand over a steel bar. I'll tie the top of the stand from above just in case though. I'm not against building in redundancy. You can see here the low intensity of the sunlight & the spacing of the steel bars inside the window. Nobody outside can see a thing - even standing 3 feet away. I know. I checked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members outdoorgb Posted July 29, 2009 Members Share Posted July 29, 2009 I like it...you've been around guitars long enough to know how to care for them so that's not an issue. Incresed floor space in a smaller room...win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members panhandler Posted July 29, 2009 Members Share Posted July 29, 2009 I'd feel better with some String Swing or Hercules on a solid wall. Not much protection from temps and humidity. I'm just sayin... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members roughtrade Posted July 29, 2009 Members Share Posted July 29, 2009 You do have some nice guitars:thu: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Etienne Rambert Posted July 29, 2009 Author Members Share Posted July 29, 2009 3 are hand-made in Vietnam. One's a Guild F-65ce. (I've got it right over the bed - so in case I'm wrong, it will have a cushioned fall.) I'm considering whether I'll bring my Guild D-60 back with me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rhancox Posted July 29, 2009 Members Share Posted July 29, 2009 Just make sure you take care of Grey Goose. I'll be coming for it when you're done with her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Etienne Rambert Posted July 29, 2009 Author Members Share Posted July 29, 2009 Thanks. She's the one to the right of the lady. (on the lady's left-hand side). She is an awesome guitar. The Cambodian Rosewood and Cedar sound magnificent. I'm set up for recording now. But I'm overloaded with work. I'll make a sound clip with the LR Baggs, without & with them mixed. Pretty damned impressive. That's why I'm unsure if I'm bringing the Guild D-60 over here. I already have a great-sounding Rosewood, the Grey Goose. The arch top has dead strings too. It's time to make a sound clip of it with dead strings to show y'all what a true monster it is. It fears no arch top in terms of sheer acoustic volume. Bring it on Gibson, Guild, D'Benedetto. As far as volume goes - this thing will drown y'all out. Godin 5th Avenue? What a poser! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Samilyn Posted July 29, 2009 Members Share Posted July 29, 2009 Excellent solution, Marc. Lovely gits and that painting is beautiful, too. I'm getting ready to move to smaller digs and will soon face the challenge of arranging a LOT of gits and equipment in a small room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Samilyn Posted July 29, 2009 Members Share Posted July 29, 2009 Just make sure you take care of Grey Goose. I'll be coming for it when you're done with her. And I've got dibs on the F65ce. I fell in love with that git - most incredible tone I've ever heard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Etienne Rambert Posted July 29, 2009 Author Members Share Posted July 29, 2009 Sam, Bars inside the window are a good thing for hanging guitars. You need good guitar stands though. I'll probably keep the F-65ce here again another year. I need a Maple in my arsenal. It would be nice to travel for once without the hassle of bring a guitar. So I may not bring any back. Too bad you're not in Louisiana. I'll be eating at Crawfish Town in Breaux Bridge for sure. And I'll be passing through Alex again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members daklander Posted July 29, 2009 Members Share Posted July 29, 2009 Though I think I understand I'd like to see the solution sans the drapes to see how they actually fit. The main thing to consider is the film. Just because it blocks visible light and hides the view does not mean it blocks damaging radiation and heat, something the curtains aren't going to help with either. If the film is reflective on the back side you're probably good to go. Any way to get the material's reflective specs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Etienne Rambert Posted July 29, 2009 Author Members Share Posted July 29, 2009 daklander: "Though I think I understand I'd like to see the solution sans the drapes to see how they actually fit." I've been thinking about putting the guitar stands completely inside the drapes. That means they would be behind the curtains - protruding out. I'd have to rest my guitars on that. Guitars would be outside the curtains. Stands would be inside the curtains, fastened to the bars. But in doing it that way - I might get an even more stable mounting of the stands. I'm going to check that out in the next few days. As you can see, the guitars stands (including the top & the cross-piece), are all outside the curtains. One thing is for sure, this has cleared up a lot of clutter and floor space in my bed room/music room.I like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members daklander Posted July 29, 2009 Members Share Posted July 29, 2009 Yeah, I see that and that's why I'd like to see just how the stand hang behind the bars without the curtains, or the guitar in the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Etienne Rambert Posted July 30, 2009 Author Members Share Posted July 30, 2009 I checked it today again. The top of the stand is not only reinforced by physics, now it's reinforced with nylon twine too inside the window. These things aren't going anywhere. The biggest danger would be a bump that caused a guitar to fall forward or sideways. Falling forward is unlikely since they're leaning backwards. A bump causing a guitar to fall sideways is a possibility. But I think it's very remote. Any bump at all is unlikely because people can't walk in the areas where they are hung. There's no room. Now if I had a cat or a pet monkey - watch out. I have bumped my head twice on the Guild stand though, getting out of bed. It didn't move. The guitar stands themselves - ain't going anywhere. They ain't even gonna move. Guaranteed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Pascal Posted July 30, 2009 Members Share Posted July 30, 2009 It's a pretty neat solution to my floor space problem. Cool idea... but not all of us live in a prison cell. :poke: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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