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    I've heard of 65 watts solid state is "adequate" or 15 watts tube is also OK. This is for guitars. I've never been able to try an amp cranked up since I live in an apartment so I have no idea if 65 watts is OK. One guy told me that the amp I inquired about MAY not be able to keep up with the drummer. It's 175 watts RMS solid state:

    http://www.isptechnologies.com/portfolio/vector-fs8/

    It's also for using my BOSS SY-300 guitar synth. Do you think the 8" speaker is just too small?
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    I recommend a Fender Mustang IV. They are not very expensive to buy used.

    It is a stereo amplifier with two 12" speakers (like a Roland JC120 Jazz Chorus) at 75 Watts per speaker.

    The aux input allows the user to plug an mp3 player (or any other stereo audio source) into the amp without being affected by the modeling preamp. This feature alone makes it ideal for your guitar synth - it's nice to have a stereo amp for synth.

    All that being said, the main reason I like the Mustang IV is because it sounds very good with electric guitar and has enough power for just about any situation.

    Although it is about the same size as a Fender Twin Reverb it is lightweight and easy to move around.
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      A guitar synth tends to put out more bass, so I would consider a minimum of a 12 inch speaker.
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        I have an old Fender Twin Reverb, Paul Rivera design push pull master volume. They are 135 watts.
        Not as loud as the 100 watt Mesa Tverb combo I owned. I only sold the Tverb as it weighed in a 98 lbs. The thing sounded amazing though.

        These days I choose my amps more by what I can pick up and not get hurt doing.
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          • #6
            Basically what your looking at is a powered monitor. Which in itself is ideal for use with a guitar synth, although when it comes to volume, aside from wattage speaker size is also important. Moving more air so to say. Although I cant say with that unit, as it may be loud as hell. But I'm an OG so give me at least 12 inch speakers. However as that synth unit if not mistaken is mono only I see no benefit of a stereo rig. But that's not to say more is not better in my book. I figure if we're going to move some air lets move a lot of it. I use a GR-55 myself and while not ideal for live work as it can be a bit quirky and throw you an unexpected curve ball from time to time, but for home studio use its a kick in the ass. In which case I just run it to the powered mixer and pair of 15 inch studio monitors. Live on the other hand I'm about as low tech old school cheap as it gets. Basically just an old Fender FM 212r. All they were was loud with a sterile clean channel , that's about it. Granted I run the mag pickups out to a 100w tube amp and 412 cab. But on the hex pickup side that little Fender is more than adequate. Plus it only weighs about 40 pounds and cost me $75 bucks.

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              Good call, I might ask boss if the SY-300 is actually stereo or mono? I'd assume synths would have to be stereo?

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            Originally posted by doublecross View Post
            Basically what your looking at is a powered monitor. Which in itself is ideal for use with a guitar synth, although when it comes to volume, aside from wattage speaker size is also important. Moving more air so to say. Although I cant say with that unit, as it may be loud as hell. But I'm an OG so give me at least 12 inch speakers. However as that synth unit if not mistaken is mono only I see no benefit of a stereo rig. . . .
            It has separate left and right outputs but I can't find anything that indicates whether it's stereo or mono, except that the right output is "mono". I do agree on a bigger speaker. 10" is pretty much the minimum I'd use for live playing. I hear you on the FM212R. I still own an FM65R (basically a single speaker version of the 212) that was my first halfway decent amp. Lightweight (32 lbs.), loud as heck, and good cleans.
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            • samal50
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              For such an expensive amp, I don't know why ISP Technologies made it only an 8" speaker. I do have my eyes on a pair of Yamaha DXR10 powered PA speakers or the Electro-Voice ZLX-12P.
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