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    Probably going to sink some $$$ into another amp after the new year. Something fender-ish. It'll be a workhorse, get gigged every weekend....



    Looking at prices of vintage (blackface era) fenders and modern boutique stuff, looks to be very comparable.



    So I'm looking for opinions....keep in mind, dependability, resale value, etc.



    New boutique hand wired or vintage fender?
    Les Paul's & Strats, Fender Super & Blues Junior, Fulltone pedals & a whole lot of stuff that I don't use and can't seem to let go....

  • #2
    Unless that particular vintage amp has mojo factor that just inspires you, definitely new.
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    • #3
      Swart & Victoria amps come to mind , though I think they are more of the tweed era .
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      • #4
        There's two main things to consider IMO when it comes to a question of vintage vs new custom.



        1; resale value. Generally speaking, you will not get back the money you invest in a custom amp.



        2; Reliablilty. IMO a quality custom/boutique amp is going to be much more reliable and have less maintainence cost.





        Weigh those two things out and your decision should be made. If you plan to keep this amp forever, a custom/boutique is the better choice IMO. If you plan to sell it sooner or later, get the vintage amp...
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        • #5
          i'd look new.



          for blackface-style amps, i'd check out tone king amps.

          http://www.toneking.com/products/index.html





          for tweed style, and more vintage correct, i'd check out

          victoria amps (great handwired build and vintage correct)

          http://www.victoriaamplifier.com/

          OR

          clark amps

          http://www.clarkamplification.com/





          for tweed style but with a modern twist, check out swart. (i like swart for tweed stuff. the AST is a sick sick amp.)

          http://www.swartamps.com/
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          • #6
            IMO, the best thing about boutique amps is they sell for cheap on the used market. I would buy a used blackface styled boutique amp and work it to death. I have an Allen Accomplice, which is based on BF Fender amps and its built like a tank. Its one of my workhorse amps.
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            • #7
              I'd prolly err on the side of buying new unless you were very sure about the reliability and condition of the vintage piece. Just my .02
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              • #8
                Vintage. Old Fenders are a bargain compared to new boutique stuff.





                I've seen blackface pro reverbs in workhorse shape for ~$1500 lately and Twins/Deluxe reverbs for $2k. Heck drip rail Supers for ~$1000...







                Nothing against boutique stuff but those old Fenders are beasts and easily on par with anything 'boutique'.

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                • #9
                  a "vintage" (the **************** does that mean, anyway?) amp is going to be just as reliable as a new one IF the wear items are replaced...filter caps, vibrato roach, etc. for me to completely go through something like an old twin is less than $500 with new tubes, and it'll be as reliable as an electronic device can be.



                  the prices on some of the new fender clones (booteeek) are ridiculous.
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                  • #10
                    Also vintage fenders will keep going up in value.







                    Boutique companies sink all the time when the new flavor of the month pops up and TGP decides to sell the old amps for half price.

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                    • #11






                      Quote Originally Posted by Ricky Bobby
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                      Vintage. Old Fenders are a bargain compared to new boutique stuff.





                      I've seen blackface pro reverbs in workhorse shape for ~$1500 lately and Twins/Deluxe reverbs for $2k. Heck drip rail Supers for ~$1000...







                      Nothing against boutique stuff but those old Fenders are beasts and easily on par with anything 'boutique'.




                      You do make a good point, the vintage stuff is as cheap as I've ever seen it. Here is good example of what you're talking about on our local CL. This could definitely be a workhorse.



                      http://atlanta.craigslist.org/sat/msg/3444530931.html
                      Diddlybo
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                      Smoke 'em if you got 'em.
                      My current amp selection:
                      Carr Slant6V, Allen Accomplice, Rivera R-30 Thirty-twelve, Fender ChampII, Tech21 Trademark 10

                      Good HCAF transactions with hal9000, guitup, Anibas and ARS.

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                      • #12






                        Quote Originally Posted by diddlybo
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                        You do make a good point, the vintage stuff is as cheap as I've ever seen it. Here is good example of what you're talking about on our local CL. This could definitely be a workhorse.



                        http://atlanta.craigslist.org/sat/msg/3444530931.html




                        I picked one of those up last year for $350 in near mint condition. $50 to have a 3 prong installed and it works like new.

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                        • #13






                          Quote Originally Posted by boonestunes
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                          Probably going to sink some $$$ into another amp after the new year. Something fender-ish. It'll be a workhorse, get gigged every weekend....



                          Looking at prices of vintage (blackface era) fenders and modern boutique stuff, looks to be very comparable.



                          So I'm looking for opinions....keep in mind, dependability, resale value, etc.



                          New boutique hand wired or vintage fender?






                          Between these 2 options I'd say an old Fender is your best bet.

                          But also look into new Fenders, you can find a DRRI for great prices all the time and if that's not a workhorse amp, I don't know what is.



                          I don't like boutique anything so I would stay away from that.
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                          • #14
                            Cool thoughts. Allen Amps is just up the road from me.... Have been looking at that Accomplice Jr....
                            Les Paul's & Strats, Fender Super & Blues Junior, Fulltone pedals & a whole lot of stuff that I don't use and can't seem to let go....

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                            • #15






                              Quote Originally Posted by boonestunes
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                              Cool thoughts. Allen Amps is just up the road from me.... Have been looking at that Accomplice Jr....




                              Are you good with a soldering iron? If so, his kits are awesome.
                              Diddlybo
                              -----------------------------------------------
                              Smoke 'em if you got 'em.
                              My current amp selection:
                              Carr Slant6V, Allen Accomplice, Rivera R-30 Thirty-twelve, Fender ChampII, Tech21 Trademark 10

                              Good HCAF transactions with hal9000, guitup, Anibas and ARS.

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