TC Electronics or Digitech for vocals?

Considering getting a vocal harmonizer and was wondering what the street says about these?

thanks

BR

TC by a factor of 100.

Just try em.

Do you play guitar and sing? Because if you do, don't buy anything until you messed around with our new VocalistLive2 and it's only $299.

There is really only one chip manufacturer that produces high quality vocal harmonies, IVL. The same chip that's in TC is the same that's in our stuff.

Just hear the two of them and you decide how much you should spend for awesome harmonies.

Oh, by the way you'll never have to program our box. It works off of you guitar chords. Just plug in play the guitar and sing.

Again, I work for DigiTech but all I ask is just listen.

K,

Have you tried them both out?

Demo or actual playing?

BR

D,

I dont think I can demo any of them here. I'll chk & see if the music store carries

them.

BR

I must admit my experience with Digitech was with the prior generation of technology. It may not be relevant to the new product mentioned above.

Perhaps I should have been more careful with my reply.

I prefer the TC stuff, but they're both really neat technologies, and it's not like you're going to lose by choosing one over the other.

I believe that both Digitech and TC Electronic vocal processing harmonization technologies came from a Canadian company called IVL. I might be wrong.

- Jeff

Go to the NAMM video theater and watch the Digitech Vocalist 2 and 4 video....You'll Forget the TC Stuff...The new Digitech technology is light years ahead of TC now and it triggers harmonies based on your guitar chords so NO FOOT TAPPING. Check it out.

OK thaks guys.

Hey Gus,

I have one of their 1st sound generators for vocalists. Its the Vocalist II. Is that what you used also?

How wld you compare the new versions for TC and Digitech to it?

BR

Sean,

I did that already and saw some of your posts on it yesterday. Video is pretty impressive.

Have you used the TC at all?

I saw you were in Wasilla. I'm bldg there but in ANC now. I guess your outside now huh?

BR

G,

The top unit in the rack is the Vocalist II from Digitech. Ever use it? Guess it was an newer version than yours. The SGE effects unit below also has a harmony effect, it has abt 120 diff effects but is still older technology. 12 string sound is pretty neat.

That is one sweet rack, Are you running a DX-7 and an Ensoniq ESQ-1? or maybe a Mirage? It's crazy how far technology has come with this stuff. I remember when I thought my SPX90 was the sh*t!

Gus and Doug,

I'm amazed at your comments. That gear is mostly from the 80's and early 90's.

How did you determine I had a Mirage?

The JL cooper midi controller was used with a MAC running Master Track Pro. Long time ago for sure.

The rack was bought last and is the newest thing you see 'cept the Motherload on top which i sent back.

Sad thing this gear has been sitting since then doing nothing..

Here is my orig rack I built..

I knew it was from the 80's because I that's when I worked retail in Chicago. I sold most of this gear and at that time DX-7's, ESQ-1's, & Mirages were the hot stuff. I really was just guessing.

I too have a rack full of gear that as soon as I acquired it, it has sat. I think of it more of studio artwork. Like when people walk into my music room it's something they expect to see.

Same goes for my Mac Quicksliver and my 001 Digi Pro Tools system.

All I use now is my GNX4 to record.

Doug,

Tell me abt the GNX4. How do you use it. I'm on the verge of getting the Line 6 POD XT Live but thats a new one I've not heard about.

Looks like you know the equipment.

Which wld you rec and why?

thanks a heap man:)

rick

Doug,

I forgot to ask. I saw the zzsounds write up in the GNX4. IT says 24 bit doesnt

give the sampling rate. Usually that means 16 bit or so.

What is the sampling rate?

rick

OMG....Another Alaskan?? You're in Anchorage now??? If so, you need to come out to the Valley and jam with me. I'm playing 3-5 nights a week. Check out my Myspace page for dates. www.myspace.com/seanmormelo

Sean

I have had the TCH Quintet for a few years now. I love it.

Dan

http://teachmedrums.com/quintet.html

Like Gus said it's a 16 bit recorded with a 24 bit processor. This allows us to utilize the full 16 bits. Many recorders that say 16 bit don't use the full bit rate. It makes a big difference in the quality of the sound.

As for the GNX4. I use it strickly as a recording device. I started with a Yamaha 4 track recorder back in the mid 80's and have had just about everything since ending with a Digi 001 system. All I use now is the GNX4. All I need to do is hit the power switch, plug my guitar in and hit record and I'm in. No more routing the signal, no more messing with the balance, just hit the record button with your foot and you're off.

Since it will record as a looper that's the way I now write. I'll come up with an idea on the guitar. Then I'll find an appropriate drum pattern from the on board drum machine (10 different kits and an array of patterns). Then I'll tap the tempo to lock that pattern in. Then find a blank spot on my Compact Flash card (I have a 1 Gig card and have over 50 songs on it). Then I arm the drum track and hit the record button, a four beat click begins and them I'm recording. At the end of the piece I hit the record button again (when I'm approaching what I want the down beat of 1 to be) and it creates a loop.

I then pick the next instrument (usually I'll then lay the bass down, you can use Preset 22 which makes you guitar sound like a bass or just run a bass into the unit and use one of the bass amp models, this is what I do). Sometimes I'll route my keyboard into the line in's and lay down piano tracks. The on board recorder is an eight track recorder, the unit also has USB which you can record latency free directly to your computer with the bundled software (Calkwalk Pro Tracks Plus II for PC or Bias Deck for Mac). The on board eight track is plenty for me to capture song ideas. Usually drums, a few tracks of guitar, bass, keyboard and vocals. That's the other thing it has a dbx silver series mic pre where I just plug in my large diaphragm recording mic.

I'm telling you and any other songwriters out there, this thing is a sleeper product. I don't think it gets the attention it deserves as a writing tool. The other cool thing is you never have to dick with the tracks, I'm getting some of the best sounding home recordings I've ever made.

I've never tried but is it possible to attach a audio sample so you guys can hear some examples of the things I've done of the GNX4

Well as you know, I'm a huge GNX4 fan. When I moved it was the first piece of gear I unpacked, because in a couple minutes of setup time I had an audio interface, recorder, signal processor, mic pre, drum machine.

The one thing Doug didn't mention is that it's easy to swap parts over to your main computer if you want, the GNX4 recorders standard WAV files. One of the ways I use it is to record narration where the background noise has to be zero (the GNX4 has no moving parts). After recording the narration, I transfer the file over to main computer for editing and sliding in with the video.

I did a whole bunch of tutorials on the GNX4 that you can see at http://www.guitarworkstation.com and also wrote a book about it that did really well.

Oh, one more thing: It's also a killer vocal processor.

D,

Thats abt what i want , RIGHT NOW, to get the OLD juices flowing again. Like you, I've got tons of ideas and rhythms going ard in my head and need to get them out..

Hmm,...?

I did email with a guy in Alabama. Now he did some fair recording with the KORG 32 he just got. In 1 hr he layed down a pretty simple but neat song with drums, guitar and voice..He had previously used the KORG 16 so he knew the equipment.

Have you tried a HD recorder like that at all? Considered it?

Well ill do some research and am gonna give the GNX4 some very serious consideration.

Hey, I appreciate your description and time. It is more informative than any manuf pr I read these days.

thanks man & happy notes. Hey, maybe we can swap some licks over the net at a later date, once i can record my ideas.

rick