Members woodsmandan Posted March 8, 2006 Members Share Posted March 8, 2006 I said it here before, i LOVE my '51...now i need a Strat, but i want a neck like the '51 ...i have a mexican Tele, the neck is ok but a lot flater, i really dig the '51 neck, wich Strat would have one close to it ? i really like the '51 bigger frets also, the ones on my Tele feels so tiny now... Any advice other than buying another '51, a Squier Strat and swapping necks ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members woodsmandan Posted March 8, 2006 Author Members Share Posted March 8, 2006 ...let me bump this...cuz i want to know... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members woodsmandan Posted March 8, 2006 Author Members Share Posted March 8, 2006 ...my fault...should've asked a question about Agiles, would have 100 answers by now... just kidding boys, just bumping also...come on, what neck is similar in feel ? someone must know.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RaVenCAD Posted March 8, 2006 Members Share Posted March 8, 2006 Oh this is a switch..... It's usually "Which (insert cheap import brand here) neck is most like a (insert expensive American made guitar brand here) ?" Best advice is to take your '51 to GC, then A/B it with a bunch of Fenders. From the looks of it, it's gonna be a Tele that has the most similar neck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members silverkw Posted March 8, 2006 Members Share Posted March 8, 2006 I think it's gotta be one of those chunky tele's, or some sort of reissue strat, we are talking about expensive stuff here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members woodsmandan Posted March 8, 2006 Author Members Share Posted March 8, 2006 Originally posted by RaVenCAD Oh this is a switch..... It's usually "Which (insert cheap import brand here) neck is most like a (insert expensive American made guitar brand here) ?"Best advice is to take your '51 to GC, then A/B it with a bunch of Fenders. From the looks of it, it's gonna be a Tele that has the most similar neck. ...i know, i'm growing backwards...i was brought up on a Gibson SG, than i got a Mexi Tele that put the Gibby in the closet, and now that '51 gets most of my playin time...i don't quite get it myself... ..but no GC near or around here, that's why i wanted a ballpark opinion on what kind of neck profile/radius the '51 was related to, is it close to the Fender Classic series, that kind of stuff, so i'll know what to check out on my next journey in the big city. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members IG0R Posted March 8, 2006 Members Share Posted March 8, 2006 The 51 has a "C" neck profile 9 1/2" radius with medium jumbo frets. You probably have the smaller "vintage" frets on the MIM tele. Most of the MIM strats have "vintage" frets. Maybe a HWY 1 USA ? Or even the lite ash strat from korea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members woodsmandan Posted March 8, 2006 Author Members Share Posted March 8, 2006 thanks, i'll sure check into the Highway 1 Strat...but i noticed on fender's site that the standard Tele neck is modern C shape, 91/2 radius and medium jumbo frets....but my standard tele is far from having medium jumbo, am i right?...did Fender change the frets on the standards recently? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tkachuk07 Posted March 8, 2006 Members Share Posted March 8, 2006 Originally posted by woodsmandan thanks, i'll sure check into the Highway 1 Strat...but i noticed on fender's site that the standard Tele neck is modern C shape, 91/2 radius and medium jumbo frets....but my standard tele is far from having medium jumbo, am i right?...did Fender change the frets on the standards recently? Yes, the new Mex standards just switched to Med jumbo frets. The Squier 51 states modern C shape like most other Fender electrics, but it is certainly a little chunkier than most others listed as modern C. The new Mex Standard Strat will be listed as 9.5 radius, med jumbo frets, modern C etc., but I'm sure the neck will be a little thinner than the 51 if you check it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members woodsmandan Posted March 8, 2006 Author Members Share Posted March 8, 2006 any chance for a fatter c shaped neck with medium jumbo then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Damon Holland Posted March 8, 2006 Members Share Posted March 8, 2006 I think the '51 neck is supposed to be off a tele. Not just the headstock. When I went to check them out it seemed a little narrower than a regular strat. Since I've never played a tele I figured they were just like that. BTw I passed on the '51. Got a squire std strat w amber satin. Just to mess around with (gas!) It just "felt" better. DH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Guyanaju Posted March 26, 2009 Members Share Posted March 26, 2009 Hi, I've a '51 too and, as Woodsmandan, I love the neck. I have other guitars I've paid ten times or more the price of the 51 but the necks are not so good for me. I'm looking now for a blond tele and I've tried today : - tele road worn- 52 reissue- baja- squier classi vibe- highway 1 upgrade no one's got a neck as fine as the 51... perhaps the squier but with a flatter fingerboard (9.5 radius) maybe the american standard I haven't tried. Whan I look at the specifications of all these models, it's always a "C shape" (excepted the 52 and baja : U shape) however it's not exactly the same, not so comfortable... a telecaster with the same neck as the '51 doesn't exist ? thx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members lowbrow Posted March 26, 2009 Members Share Posted March 26, 2009 I always thought my `51 necks where very close to the post 2007 MIM standard strat/tele necks in profile/feel.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members steve_man Posted March 26, 2009 Members Share Posted March 26, 2009 I thought the 50's necks were similar to the modern "c-shaped" necks...have you tried one of the 50's Squires (Classic Vibe)? Worth a shot... http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Squier-CLASSIC-VIBE-Stratocaster-50s-Electric-Guitar-?sku=519338 Or, here's one on Ebay...make him an offer...could get it CHEAP! http://cgi.ebay.com/Fender-Squire-Classic-Vibe-60s-Stratocaster-gig-bag_W0QQitemZ260382976956QQcmdZViewItemQQptZGuitar?hash=item260382976956&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2|65%3A1|39%3A1|240%3A1318 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Guyanaju Posted March 26, 2009 Members Share Posted March 26, 2009 I thought the 50's necks were similar to the modern "c-shaped" necks...have you tried one of the 50's Squires (Classic Vibe)? Worth a shot... Thx Yes I've tried and the classic wibe neck was the nearest of the 51 but with a fingerboard a little bit flatter (9.5 radius). I sill have to try the 50's MIM (as saied by lowbrow) and the american standard to compare. What about japan models (more chunky vintage necks) ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Into Nation Posted March 26, 2009 Members Share Posted March 26, 2009 I thought the 50's necks were similar to the modern "c-shaped" necks...have you tried one of the 50's Squires (Classic Vibe)? Worth a shot...http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Squier-CLASSIC-VIBE-Stratocaster-50s-Electric-Guitar-?sku=519338Or, here's one on Ebay...make him an offer...could get it CHEAP!http://cgi.ebay.com/Fender-Squire-Classic-Vibe-60s-Stratocaster-gig-bag_W0QQitemZ260382976956QQcmdZViewItemQQptZGuitar?hash=item260382976956&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2|65%3A1|39%3A1|240%3A1318 That eBay CV is a 60's, and they are not chunky - at least mine isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Guyanaju Posted March 26, 2009 Members Share Posted March 26, 2009 That eBay CV is a 60's, and they are not chunky - at least mine isn't. Thx, I've seen but it's a strat and I'm looking for a tele... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members steve_man Posted March 26, 2009 Members Share Posted March 26, 2009 umm...this isn't really your thread dude...the OP is looking for a Strat... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jhphoto Posted March 26, 2009 Members Share Posted March 26, 2009 why not just, um, you know, unbolt that neck and bolt it into a strat body Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DonK Posted March 26, 2009 Members Share Posted March 26, 2009 I keep a database on my guitars (I know, I'm neurotic), mostly so I can keep track of what relief, string height, and string brand I'm using for a particular guitar. Whenever I change strings I check the relief and string height against the database. I also take the neck measurements when I first put the axe in the database: my Squier '51's neck is .870" at the 1st fret, .870" at the 6th fret, and .900" at the 12th. That's a fairly chunky neck shape. In comparison, a modern Fender MIA Strat or Tele generally is .780-.800" at the first fret and .850" at the 12th. Closest neck in my database are a MIM Strat and MIM Tele, which have almost identical proportions and are also C-shaped: both are .860" at the 1st fret and .900" at the 12th. They're both from 2006. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members narwhal Posted March 26, 2009 Members Share Posted March 26, 2009 I like the fender "C" necks. I think several of the imports had this neck profile, and even the Squier tele that I have now seems very close to it. I know that the MIM 60's reissue strats had that neck shape, for a while. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cbh5150 Posted March 26, 2009 Members Share Posted March 26, 2009 Squier Deluxe Strat: http://www.music123.com/Squier-by-Fender-Deluxe-Strat-Electric-Guitar-517231-i1389949.Music123 GREAT guitar for the money; the neck is satin heaven. EDIT: It appears the Pewter color (which is really Pearl White Metallic) is on backorder until JUNE - I hope that doesn't mean they are discontinuing these . I may have to add the Daphne Blue one to my Pewter... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rocknhard Posted March 26, 2009 Members Share Posted March 26, 2009 Yes, you should buy a very expensive guitar and put that really nice 51' neck on it, just because it is perfect! :facepalm: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DonK Posted March 26, 2009 Members Share Posted March 26, 2009 I keep seeing the term "Fender modern C" shape bandied about as if it uniformly and accurately described all modern Fender necks. The only thing uniform is the C profile - it doesn't really describe the thickness of the neck for one guitar model vs. another. The profile on the MIM's is described as "modern C", but if you measure the profile at the 1st, 6th and 12th frets, you'll find the thickness isn't the same as on an MIA. Fender is notoriously careless in its use of C, U, V etc. to describe neck profiles. The neck on my American Deluxe Ash Tele is described at the Fender site as "U shape", and since they obviously designed the guitar to look like a '52 Reissue, you might think it would have the fairly chunky neck of that guitar, which is also described as U-shaped. It's not even close. The neck on the AD Ash Tele - much to my chagrin - feels and measures almost exactly the same as a regular MIA Tele or Strat. When you're talking about a neck as thin as on the MIA's (they're not that much thicker than a Wizard II), U vs. C becomes almost irrelevant. There's not enough wood to really distinguish the profile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members machine gunner Posted March 27, 2009 Members Share Posted March 27, 2009 I always thought my `51 necks where very close to the post 2007 MIM standard strat/tele necks in profile/feel....I've had both and they're different. My '51's neck feels different to me than any Strat or Tele I've owned, maybe the most comfortable of all of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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