Members Task Posted November 28, 2012 Members Share Posted November 28, 2012 Never done this repair before, but I need to replace the studs/sleeve insert on a FR equipped guitar. I have Super glue (Cyano arcrylate) Yellow elmers woodworkers glue which I have read is the same as titebond Gorilla Glue. Will any these work well,or do you have a better suggestion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fretless Posted November 28, 2012 Members Share Posted November 28, 2012 no glue at all , just push'em in . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members axegrinder Posted November 28, 2012 Members Share Posted November 28, 2012 Those bushings are designed to be pressed into wood, but some people add glue for whatever reason. If you aren't having trouble with it pulling out AND if the holes are actually sized properly with a snug fit then try it sans glue. If the holes are so big that the bushings are sloppy during insertion, don't rely on glue as a filler. I'd be thinking drill and plug in that case and start with fresh holes. Before getting into ANY of that, I am curious what is wrong with the original bushings? Are they a different size than the new posts or have they become loose in some way? If they have gotten loose, then it seems highly likely that the wood needs to be addressed. The bushings shouldn't wear out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Task Posted November 28, 2012 Author Members Share Posted November 28, 2012 The studs are on a 90's washburn mercury import and the allen wrench sockets on the studs are stripped and the sleeve and stud outside diameter is smaller than a regular FR so you can't just put in new FR studs. I have replaced the studs on other mercs with a wilkinson stud (same OD as the original), but uses a smaller allen wrench to adjust it, and so I decided to replace this one with regular floyd studs. I will need to drill the holes larger to accomodate The originals are the ones that have the sleeves attached by a horizontal bar that is screwed into the guitar probably because some of them were made out of cheap wood or plywood. Another problem is that the trem rout landing for the sleeve/bar assembly is not deep enough with the additional thickness of the sleeve/bar and you bottom out the stud before the action is low enough. If the bar wasn't there, you could lower the trem for perfect action. The import mercuries are good guitars with a little extra work. This one is alder so it should be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Ratae Corieltauvorum Posted November 28, 2012 Moderators Share Posted November 28, 2012 The answer is most definitely NOT Gorilla, that {censored} is {censored}ting {censored} Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Canadian Jeff Posted November 28, 2012 Members Share Posted November 28, 2012 You just press them in. If they don't stay without glue you need to plug and start anew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Task Posted November 28, 2012 Author Members Share Posted November 28, 2012 Originally Posted by Canadian Jeff If they don't stay without glue you need to plug and start anew. Sounds like lyrics of a salacious nature! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Grant Harding Posted November 28, 2012 Members Share Posted November 28, 2012 Originally Posted by Canadian Jeff You just press them in. If they don't stay without glue you need to plug and start anew. This! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Task Posted November 29, 2012 Author Members Share Posted November 29, 2012 Thanks folks! I will hide the glues! But can you hide "hide" glue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Belva Posted November 29, 2012 Members Share Posted November 29, 2012 Originally Posted by Task Thanks folks! I will hide the glues! But can you hide "hide" glue? You will need to glue the plug in place. Just about any hardware store will have dowel plugs. Drill to proper size, glue up the plug, install. I always use tape and my Japanese back saw to cut off the excess, but you can also insert the plug, mark with a pencil and cut it off prior to installation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Canadian Jeff Posted November 29, 2012 Members Share Posted November 29, 2012 Originally Posted by Task Sounds like lyrics of a salacious nature! lol, so it does. I hadn't meant for it to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members *BLEEP* Posted November 29, 2012 Members Share Posted November 29, 2012 Originally Posted by Task Yellow elmers woodworkers glue which I have read is the same as titebond Titebond I -- maybe, but not same as Titebond II or Titebond III. Luthiers use Titebond II and III these days. Gorilla Glue. This shit should never get anywhere near a guitar that you care about. It's meant for emergency construction work, as in carpenters performing emergency work with wood where stuff needs to setup and cure quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Ratae Corieltauvorum Posted November 29, 2012 Moderators Share Posted November 29, 2012 Originally Posted by Reality Check This shit should never get anywhere near a guitar that you care about. It's meant for emergency construction work, as in carpenters performing emergency work with wood where stuff needs to setup and cure quickly. You know I can't honestly think of anywhere that Gorilla shit would be appropriate, its fucking horrible shit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members i386 Posted November 29, 2012 Members Share Posted November 29, 2012 Once the dowels are in, how do you precisely find the center of the dowel to drill it out. This is critical right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Canadian Jeff Posted November 29, 2012 Members Share Posted November 29, 2012 Originally Posted by i386 Once the dowels are in, how do you precisely find the center of the dowel to drill it out. This is critical right? http://halen.com/evh/index.php?name=...695389&start=0That's the very first link I got off Google with regards to how to drill for Floyd studs. Your question has been answered a million times on a thousand other forums. Google yo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RaVenCAD Posted November 29, 2012 Members Share Posted November 29, 2012 Originally Posted by Ratae Coritanorum You know I can't honestly think of anywhere that Gorilla shit would be appropriate, its fucking horrible shit I used to race RC cars, and I made foam racing tires for the pro-shop at our track. That involved bonding a small plastic wheel and a piece of black foam tubing. Gorilla glue was perfect because as it expanded, it filled in the cells of the foam closest to the wheel, which helped make for a firmer tire closer to the wheel, but softer further out. So yes, Gorilla glue does indeed have some excellent uses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Floyd Rosenbomb Posted November 30, 2012 Members Share Posted November 30, 2012 Originally Posted by Canadian Jeff You just press them in. If they don't stay without glue you need to plug and start anew. This is the correct answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members i386 Posted November 30, 2012 Members Share Posted November 30, 2012 Originally Posted by Canadian Jeff http://halen.com/evh/index.php?name=...695389&start=0That's the very first link I got off Google with regards to how to drill for Floyd studs. Your question has been answered a million times on a thousand other forums. Google yo. I thought it was relevant to the discussion since the OP might have to do this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Canadian Jeff Posted November 30, 2012 Members Share Posted November 30, 2012 Originally Posted by Floyd Rosenbomb This is the correct answer. And here you said you'd blocked me. aaw, big guy Originally Posted by i386 I thought it was relevant to the discussion since the OP might have to do this. Not if he doesn't drill his new holes too big. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members omni Posted November 30, 2012 Members Share Posted November 30, 2012 What's wrong with gorilla wood glue? I have used it to glue things around the house. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members *BLEEP* Posted November 30, 2012 Members Share Posted November 30, 2012 Originally Posted by Ratae Coritanorum You know I can't honestly think of anywhere that Gorilla shit would be appropriate, its fucking horrible shit Gorilla shit is most appropriate on the forest floor of cental Africa. As for Gorilla Glue shit, there are plenty of legitimate uses for fast drying / fast curing polyurethane glues like Gorilla Glue, just not guitars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members omni Posted November 30, 2012 Members Share Posted November 30, 2012 Originally Posted by Reality Check Gorilla shit is most appropriate on the forest floor of cental Africa. As for Gorilla Glue shit, there are plenty of legitimate uses for fast drying / fast curing polyurethane glues like Gorilla Glue, just not guitars. It is not strong enough? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Floyd Rosenbomb Posted November 30, 2012 Members Share Posted November 30, 2012 Originally Posted by omni It is not strong enough? Oh it's plenty strong, it swells/expands and because of that, some take issue with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members axegrinder Posted November 30, 2012 Members Share Posted November 30, 2012 Funny how we're arguing about glue when glue isn't advisable for the given application. And for a point of clarification the gorilla brand is on more than one type of glue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Belva Posted November 30, 2012 Members Share Posted November 30, 2012 Originally Posted by omni What's wrong with gorilla wood glue? I have used it to glue things around the house. I too have had great success with it. If all else fails, read the instructions? Maybe use the proper glue for the app?Looks like some peeps are bringing a knife to a gun fight and complainin' when they get shot up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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