Members Task Posted November 30, 2012 Author Members Share Posted November 30, 2012 My original post had options, one of them was for Cyano, one for Gorilla-(I should have specified the foamy type) and elmers white/titebond. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members PrawnHeed Posted November 30, 2012 Members Share Posted November 30, 2012 Originally Posted by Task My original post had options, one of them was for Cyano, one for Gorilla-(I should have specified the foamy type) and elmers white/titebond. The right answer is no glue at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members craigny Posted November 30, 2012 Members Share Posted November 30, 2012 Well he said that the new bushings are slightly larger right?? So he shouldnt have to use any glue..as long as the new holes are not too small to press in the bushings he should be able to press them in....not sure how much smaller the hole has to be for the bushing though but id say like what 1/32" smaller than the bushing?...however if glue and dowels become necessary, id recommend Titebond. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Canadian Jeff Posted November 30, 2012 Members Share Posted November 30, 2012 Do not use glue! Even if you did, and say you did it using Elmers or Titebond, they wouldn't be 'glued' in. They might stay, but wood glue doesn't bond metal. They inserts will eventually come lose. OP, find a drill bit that's a whisker smaller than the bushings (this is where a caliper would make itself very useful) and you won't need to worry about how to fix a hole that's too big. Bushings are designed to be pressed in and to stay seated without glue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Radar-Love Posted December 1, 2012 Members Share Posted December 1, 2012 Originally Posted by Canadian Jeff ...but wood glue doesn't bond metal. Neither does wood. The rebound effect of compressed wood holds the anchor in place -- provided that the clear hole for the anchor was drilled to proper specification in the first place. If the hole is a tiny bit too large, you can successfully use wood glue to fill in the gap. Personally, I'd use Titebond III for this as it has the lowest shrinkage of all wood glues. If the anchor hole in the guitar has become egged-out, you can fill in the missing wood with epoxy and re-mill the anchor hole to specification after the epoxy has cured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Arr0wHead Posted December 1, 2012 Members Share Posted December 1, 2012 I'm going through this same thing soon, replacing an Ibanz IRT-1 with a Gotoh. The studs are much larger, and I have no drill press or tools to replace the bushings. (the Gotoh are considerable larger). Would I be okay just using the new trem unit with the original bushings/studs already in the guitar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Belva Posted December 1, 2012 Members Share Posted December 1, 2012 Look, none of us can give the absolute best answer because we don't have the guitar in front of us. This is a repair. Any repair of a guitar is gonna be different than anything else ever done. Similarities, yes, but that's as far as it goes. If you have to dowel plug it, put the plug in with a good wood glue and drill the hole one size small for an interference fit. If you just have to open up the hole for the the new anchor, drill the hole one size small (1/64") and drive that puppy home. Also make sure the hole you drill is proper depth. Do that by holding the drill bit next to the anchor. Line up the part of the drill just above the pointed part with the bottom of the anchor. Use a piece of tape to mark the drill. This is one case where just a touch deeper is best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Canadian Jeff Posted December 1, 2012 Members Share Posted December 1, 2012 I've enlarged the holes from a Floyd bushing for a Gotoh bushing before. Used a hand drill and everything (it's pretty hard to mess up and go sideways when you're only slightly enlarging a pre-existing hole). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Canadian Jeff Posted December 1, 2012 Members Share Posted December 1, 2012 Originally Posted by Radar-Love Neither does wood. The rebound effect of compressed wood holds the anchor in place -- provided that the clear hole for the anchor was drilled to proper specification in the first place. If the hole is a tiny bit too large, you can successfully use wood glue to fill in the gap. Personally, I'd use Titebond III for this as it has the lowest shrinkage of all wood glues. If the anchor hole in the guitar has become egged-out, you can fill in the missing wood with epoxy and re-mill the anchor hole to specification after the epoxy has cured. Whatever. I don't care. Use glue. You could just do it properly, but instead, get a speed-bore bit the size of your head and just use Titebond 12 to fill in the gap. Threads like this are why I stopped taking my guitar to "techs". If I showed up and buddy had drilled the holes for the bushings too large I'd shush him there, grab my guitar, and leave.The very first time I did this very job was while stoned with nothing but an old lawn chair to rest the guitar on and a Makita hammer drill. It's just enlarging two holes slightly, it doesn't require a physics degree or glue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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