Members Dogoth Posted August 26, 2010 Members Share Posted August 26, 2010 It doesn't matter what style of music the band plays, the system must be tested with Steely Dan BUT.....for critical listening, don't use an ipod the compression is lossy. Use a real CD (you remember those things they used to use back when sound quality mattered (Oops I guess I'm thinking vinyl - and dating myself (why not? I'm one of the best dates I've had in a long time.....and I'm cheap))). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SpaceNorman Posted August 27, 2010 Members Share Posted August 27, 2010 Can you explain what playing pink noise over your system would help you accomplish? I find it gives me a rosier perspective ... :poke: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members agedhorse Posted August 27, 2010 Members Share Posted August 27, 2010 Under 40? Yikes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members davidss1 Posted August 27, 2010 Members Share Posted August 27, 2010 i use a mixture of songs from different eara's and genres,and try to get a result that sounds good for all.im not sure that tuning to a particular album or song is the best approach,as there are so many variables of ur past listening experience with that music,,systems ,,environments etc,,,,sure,its great to know where every nuance is in a particular track,but that doesnt mean ur past experiences with it havnt been "tainted". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Robin Posted August 27, 2010 Members Share Posted August 27, 2010 i use a mixture of songs from different eara's and genres,and try to get a result that sounds good for all. im not sure that tuning to a particular album or song is the best approach,as there are so many variables of ur past listening experience with that music,,systems ,,environments etc,,,, sure,its great to know where every nuance is in a particular track,but that doesnt mean ur past experiences with it havnt been "tainted". I use a variety....a few tracks off Quincy Jones' "Jook Joint," a couple off Donald Fagen's solo albums and yeah, some SD too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RoadRanger Posted August 27, 2010 Members Share Posted August 27, 2010 BUT.....for critical listening, don't use an ipod the compression is lossy.MP3's made at 320kbps are indistinguishable from a CD by anybody I know... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jgthatsme Posted August 27, 2010 Members Share Posted August 27, 2010 MP3's made at 320kbps are indistinguishable from a CD by anybody I know... I know there must be others (you're probably one of them), but I'm the only I know for a fact that only rips at 320. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RoadRanger Posted August 27, 2010 Members Share Posted August 27, 2010 I actually rip at 256k these days as that seems to be the minimum bit rate that doesn't sound mp3ish to me at high SPL levels. 192K is fine for casual listening (AKA break music). If I could still hear to 22k like I could 30 years ago I'd probably have a different opinion . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vito Corleone Posted August 27, 2010 Members Share Posted August 27, 2010 I know there must be others (you're probably one of them), but I'm the only I know for a fact that only rips at 320. +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members davidss1 Posted August 27, 2010 Members Share Posted August 27, 2010 If I could still hear to 22k like I could 30 years ago I'd probably have a different opinion . wow,,u could?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Zeromus-X Posted August 27, 2010 Members Share Posted August 27, 2010 I use Usher's "Yeah" or Pussycat Dolls "Dont Cha". Both have got a very deep bass hit that repeats throughout the song so that I can make sure we're not (a) blowing the subs and (b) blasting people to the back wall. Bonus points in that it generally gets people dancing to warm up for the show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members philw44 Posted August 27, 2010 Members Share Posted August 27, 2010 I think a good test track needs to be fairly slow paced so it's easier for your brain to pick out the elements that are good/bad. I can't imagine that a speed metal track would give you much feedback about how the system is sounding. A favourite of mine is Billie Jean by MJ, It sounds so unbelievably good on a big system! I can instantly identify system problems with that Kick/Snare/Bass intro. I also like to use a track with a double bass in it, maybe an older jazz number. Lots happening in the Upper bass/lower mid region. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members popgadget Posted August 27, 2010 Members Share Posted August 27, 2010 Ricky Lee Jones. Chuck E's in Love. Great dynamics, not offensive in any venue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fireax Posted August 27, 2010 Members Share Posted August 27, 2010 Mine isDef Leppard- "Pour some sugar on me" Now quit snickering. If I played a Steely Dan song...It would be "Don't take me Alive" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members race81 Posted August 27, 2010 Members Share Posted August 27, 2010 the eagles live.............hotel california......great mix of everything in one song. this is what ive been using thanks to the advice of my bassist!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members monthlymixcd Posted August 27, 2010 Members Share Posted August 27, 2010 I think using a good live track like that in addition to SD or whatever (I use various XtC tracks mixed with Gorillaz and Adrian Legg acoustic guitar stuff to run the gamut) is a good idea if you're setting up for a real band. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members hornplayer Posted August 27, 2010 Members Share Posted August 27, 2010 I use a number of different recordings. All .wav files off of CD's. All well recorded with good musical dynamics Steely Dan-Deacon Blues great recording and dynamicsChase-Get It on for horns and organTom Petty-You Wreck Me for drumsManhatten Transfer-Tuxedo Junction for vocal harmony acapella Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Axisplayer Posted August 27, 2010 Members Share Posted August 27, 2010 Norah Jones - Don't Know WhyMaria Muldaur - Midnight at the OasisAlan Jackson - Don't Rock the JukeboxEvanescence - Bring Me To Life Just depends what the crowd is as to which I like to use. When using the first two I listen for nuance, and the second two I listen for impact and clarity. Also, Evanescence has some low notes that can rattle a room if the system is right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Phil Clark Posted August 27, 2010 Members Share Posted August 27, 2010 Sanford and Townsend, Smoke from A distant Fire. It has everything in it, Heavy kick, bass, horns, harmonies... I used to use it all the time, until the band I work with added it to their playlist. Of course, I could still use it since it is for tuning. Damn it, I am going to add it back into my list of songs. I also use Huey Lewis and the News, It's Alright as well as PHINS version of Southern Cross and their original tune Fools Drunks and Children. As far as an ipod goes, you can rip songs as Wave files if you want to, and load those on the ipod, so your PA tuning songs can be waves, and your break music can be Mp3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jgthatsme Posted August 28, 2010 Members Share Posted August 28, 2010 I use a variety of tunes and it really depends where I am and if anyone is around. A few country tunes I like are: I Will...But and Little Good-Byes by SHeDAISY and Stupid Boy by Keith Urban. Newer tunes might be Tik-Tok by Ke$ha, Whataya Want From Me by Adam Lambert, or Got You Where I Want You by The Flys. My personal favorite is a RUSH bootleg from their Test for Echo Tour. It's a rehearsal of the entire concert recorded direct from the board supposedly at Saratoga Performing Arts Center in Saratoga, NY (although it doesn't look like they played SPAC during the T4E Tour). Some vocals but mostly just instrumentation with an occasional flub (of course, none by Neil). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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