When the box passed through our house many moons ago, it was nearly 16x14 in size. When I shipped it, it was nearly $20 cost. I would say if you cant afford $30 to ship one somewhere, there is no use in you participating. I got a bottom paiste pst high hat cymbal out of it, packed it back up with a splash that I had modified to be a trash splash, some brackets and odds and ends and sent it on its way. It cost me more to ship it than what I got out of it, but thats never been the point. It was suppose to be a way to help, or give back, until someone ruins it. To many greedy people out there. We could still start one back up, all 5 or 6 of us here could participate.......