CMS Author Craig Vecchione Posted August 25, 2011 CMS Author Share Posted August 25, 2011 Is the gig worth the risk... not sure I would wantto be on the road in that kind of weather myself. Words of wisdom. Time to cancel that gig. Your gear is worth more than the pay, and there's no point in trying to do a show while worried about the weather the whole time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jwlussow Posted August 25, 2011 Members Share Posted August 25, 2011 Talk to the club. I'm sure they are not expecting a great crowd as the seasoned hurricane vets are staying put to batten down. It really isn't worth the risk of losing the gear for a gig that might get cancelled when you pull into the parking lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Zeromus-X Posted August 25, 2011 Members Share Posted August 25, 2011 At this point I'm sure it'll be canceled, we're just waiting on the phone call. We do have a show at the Virginia Beach Oceanfront (indoors) tomorrow, so I need to check on that as well it seems. Looks like this one might get pretty nasty after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Zeromus-X Posted August 25, 2011 Members Share Posted August 25, 2011 Really a category 2 is nothing to worry about, in most cases, unless you are in the absolute direct path of the storm. For most it would be a very windy and interesting day. I would however worry about homes that are not built with high wind in mind.In Florida, it's one thing -- you guys have hurricanes all the time. We don't get them. The majority curve off to the ocean, and when they do hit, they're tropical storms or Cat 1 at the most. This area is essentially at sea level, and Hampton Roads (SE VA) is connected by a series of underwater tunnels between cities. The Outer Banks, that little hair you see coming off NC, is connected by a single bridge. When the water starts rising, we have nowhere to go; the tunnels close, the bridge closes, and you either make it or you don't.Keep in mind many houses in Nags Head and VB are even built on sticks, basically. Parking under them and the supports are just large pieces of lumber. They can't take a Cat 2 force wind.Here's our big worry:If our area seriously sees 9-12 inches of rain out of this, we're all going to be underwater anyway, so the wind won't really matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members YeahDoIt Posted August 25, 2011 Members Share Posted August 25, 2011 It's not too bad here in Florida now. The hurricane is about 200 miles away and we are getting about a 40 mph wind. There is some rain, occasional thunder. I've been through thunderstorms worse than this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members monkeyland Posted August 25, 2011 Members Share Posted August 25, 2011 In Florida, it's one thing -- you guys have hurricanes all the time. We don't get them. The majority curve off to the ocean, and when they do hit, they're tropical storms or Cat 1 at the most. This area is essentially at sea level, and Hampton Roads (SE VA) is connected by a series of underwater tunnels between cities. The Outer Banks, that little hair you see coming off NC, is connected by a single bridge. When the water starts rising, we have nowhere to go; the tunnels close, the bridge closes, and you either make it or you don't. Keep in mind many houses in Nags Head and VB are even built on sticks, basically. Parking under them and the supports are just large pieces of lumber. They can't take a Cat 2 force wind. If our area seriously sees 9-12 inches of rain out of this, we're all going to be underwater anyway, so the wind won't really matter. I understand that for sure. Kind of like how all the people in california were laughing at the east coasters freaking out over that quake earlier this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMS Author Craig Vecchione Posted August 25, 2011 CMS Author Share Posted August 25, 2011 If our area seriously sees 9-12 inches of rain out of this, we're all going to be underwater anyway, so the wind won't really matter. It's rarely the wind, and almost always the water that gets you in a hurricane. The more I read the forecast, the more certain I am that you need to stay well away from the shore areas, and don't bother with the gig...it's gonna be cancelled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members flanc Posted August 25, 2011 Members Share Posted August 25, 2011 Our Saturday outdoor gig has been cancelled. When we played there in July, we had close to 1000 attendee's....helluva gig...but very happy to have it cancelled with plenty of notice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Zeromus-X Posted August 25, 2011 Members Share Posted August 25, 2011 It's rarely the wind, and almost always the water that gets you in a hurricane.The more I read the forecast, the more certain I am that you need to stay well away from the shore areas, and don't bother with the gig...it's gonna be cancelled. At this point, if the forecast track stays the way it is, we're going to be devastated in this area, so that goes without saying. My Friday night gig at the Oceanfront still appears to be on, so at least we'll get all the hurricane partiers in full swing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BillESC Posted August 26, 2011 Author Members Share Posted August 26, 2011 At this point, if the forecast track stays the way it is, we're going to be devastated in this area, so that goes without saying.My Friday night gig at the Oceanfront still appears to be on, so at least we'll get all the hurricane partiers in full swing. Be careful my friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jlb Posted August 26, 2011 Members Share Posted August 26, 2011 This is going to be bad. Good luck everyone and be careful! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members drumstix Posted August 26, 2011 Members Share Posted August 26, 2011 Be safe my east coast friends. I will be praying for you all this weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Reson8tor Posted August 26, 2011 Members Share Posted August 26, 2011 It's rarely the wind, and almost always the water that gets you in a hurricane. No, that's not always the case. It depends on the speed of the storm, as well as the low pressure strength. When Andrew flattened everything south of Miami, it was the wind and the mini-tornadoes spawned inside the eye wall. Andrew was a very fast-moving storm. No time to raise a big storm surge, so the coastal damage was minor, compared to what the wind did. We can generalize to a certain extent, but every big hurricane is different. For anyone here who might be in a non-evacuation zone but still near the general path, just make sure to stock up on fresh water, batteries for flashlights etc., and canned food. Telephone and electricity may stay down for longer than you think. I didn't get my landline phone service back after Andrew for 2 weeks, and it was 2 months until electricity was restored to our neighborhood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMS Author Craig Vecchione Posted August 26, 2011 CMS Author Share Posted August 26, 2011 No, that's not always the case. It depends on the speed of the storm, as well as the low pressure strength. When Andrew flattened everything south of Miami, it was the wind and the mini-tornadoes spawned inside the eye wall. Andrew was a very fast-moving storm. No time to raise a big storm surge, so the coastal damage was minor, compared to what the wind did. We can generalize to a certain extent, but every big hurricane is different. Should I have stated "statistically"? Speaking to hurricanes ("tropical cyclone"), the deaths from drowning outnumber the deaths from all other causes by a wide margin. And it's not just from storm surge; inland freshwater flooding sometimes causes more drowning deaths than storm surge. By example, 50 of the 56 who perished from Hurrican Floyd drowned due to inland flooding. Nearly 200 died after Diane due to inland flooding. But 100% of the deaths were caused by being there. GET OUT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Zeromus-X Posted August 26, 2011 Members Share Posted August 26, 2011 On the plus side, she didn't strengthen last night, which could mean a significant difference for our area since we're close to landfall. Our gig tonight is still on as of right now; Saturday is canceled, obviously, at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BillESC Posted August 26, 2011 Author Members Share Posted August 26, 2011 One last piece of wood and I'm ready. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members lifeloverwg Posted August 26, 2011 Members Share Posted August 26, 2011 Speaking of which (scotch things): Our band's wardrobe department just issued me a kilt as mandatory stage attire for an up-coming event. The closest thing I have for proper shoes are some cork logging boots.And... What's suppose to be under a kilt?Also begs the question: My shirt wardrobe is comprised of 100% Hawaiian shirts. I suppose a shirt of some type is suppose to be worn with a kilt... and if so... would surfing buffalos or hula girls be more appropriate?oh... the wardrobe challenges of stars... Thank goodness I don't have to worry about what amount of cleavage is appropriate for the event... I suppose butt-crack cleavage isn't an issue with kilts... I dunno... untrodden territory for me. For your edification.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members IsildursBane Posted August 26, 2011 Members Share Posted August 26, 2011 I was this close ][ to hanging out on the beach sunday w/ my mic's, being that guy on the news. But, I'm gonna go back home to the place where it's always raining and hang w/ the fam & some high school peeps from VA fleeing the storm. Be safe!-Dan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members lifeloverwg Posted August 26, 2011 Members Share Posted August 26, 2011 Good luck to all you East coasters, I hope you and yours get through the storm with minimal property damage and no injuries.My only weather threat this week is getting sunburned at Burning Man or having Todd's stage stack blow down on me..... ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members drumstix Posted August 27, 2011 Members Share Posted August 27, 2011 Be safe all, I hope you guy's can get some rest tonight. Have plenty of water on hand and some flashlights. Or....get the heck out of there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Richard King Posted August 27, 2011 Members Share Posted August 27, 2011 VERY glad to see that the storm has been dropped to a category 1 rather than the predicted category 2-3 from earlier. Wind damage should be fairly minimal due to that. I'm still very glad that it missed Florida since it was a 3 when it was off shore here. We got lots of rain and some wind, but nothing serious at all. I had a bit of palm tree debris to clean up, but that's about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members W. M. Hellinger Posted August 29, 2011 Members Share Posted August 29, 2011 Viewing some of the footage on the intertube of folks escaping Irene... I realize I live in a different world... big-time. What struck me was the parade of new... NEW, NEW, NEW... high-end vehicles crammed bumper to bumper on the highways leading away. Around here... 10yo. vehicles are considered "new"... 20 - 30 yo. vehicles are common-place/daily drivers... 30+ yo. vehicles are field rigs. I was "a taken back" by the footage of what seems to be common-place on the eastern seaboard (and we would never consider using new plywood to cover our windows for a big storm... use the old stuff for that). I dunno... worlds apart it seems. It's so funny... when I go to the big city... my rig's generally one of the oldest in the Cosco parking lot... so I'm sitting on the bumper, enjoying a smoke, waiting for Liz to gather essentials (she doesn't need my help or we'll have a basket full of Twinkies or some such thing)... anyhoo... I'm looking around the parking lot... and *there* is another rig that's as old or older than mine... and inevitably... while I'm sitting there enjoying my seat on the bumper... one of my neighbors come out of the megastore and pushes their cart over to the "other paid for vehicle" in the parking lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RoadRanger Posted August 29, 2011 Members Share Posted August 29, 2011 'round here what you consider a normal homestead would be an illegal dump. We're not allowed to keep our "old stuff" around . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members W. M. Hellinger Posted August 29, 2011 Members Share Posted August 29, 2011 'round here what you consider a normal homestead would be an illegal dump. We're not allowed to keep our "old stuff" around . You mean: You can't buy 18 cords of firewood in the "long form" and have a logging truck off-load it in your yard?... and fire up your chainsaw Sunday morning 4:00am... and be prepared with coffee and donuts for the neighbors that wander over to help?I dunno... maybe that's why folks think nothing about driving onto my "yard"... cause it commonly looks like a logging deck combined with a junk yard operation... and for-goodness sakes... you certainly wouldn't want to park on "gravel"... because most... dang near all of the gravel in the county is on main roads and you wouldn't want to park on gravel and risk plugging up the road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Zeromus-X Posted August 29, 2011 Members Share Posted August 29, 2011 Virginia has state inspections on vehicles, so after a while, older vehicles just become prohibitively expensive to own/maintain/keep up to inspection standards. As well, keep in mind a lot of the places you're seeing on the news are beach/resort areas. For example, in Va Beach, you're seeing a lot of tourists with expendable income (i.e. money to buy new cars), or locals cruising the area looking for hot women (who require nice cars to pull this off, since they've got nothing else going for them). And down in the Nags Head area of NC, it's all beach/sand driving... which isn't exactly nice on vehicles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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