Line 6 M9?

[BTBAM]

You dont need the stereo one.

[Musickbox]

Hmm. That kind of stinks. That means it would be foot shuffling ALL of the time the looper is wanted. What I like about the DL4 is that it's sitting there, always ready to loop. You don't have to do anything special. Is that something that is specifically going to be for the M13, or would there be hope of having a "Looper/FX" mode, where you have a 4 button looper, and 3 dedicated stomp switches. (What I imagined the M9 would be in the first place, in looper mode). I'm REALLY into the M9 (I started this thread!), but knowing I would need tap dance shoes seems a little less exciting.

 

 

I think for what you're expecting the M13 sounds like what you want. To have that flexibility to go from using effects and the looper instantly. The M9 is like the DL4 where you have to go back and forth to use effects and the looper. But the M9 you can have the looper and the effects on at the same time. You cannot do that on the DL4. It's either or.

[ben_allison]

 

I think for what you're expecting the M13 sounds like what you want. To have that flexibility to go from using effects and the looper instantly. The M9 is like the DL4 where you have to go back and forth to use effects and the looper. But the M9 you can have the looper and the effects on at the same time. You cannot do that on the DL4. It's either or.

 

 

Yes.

 

There is always a trade-off between size, features, ease of use, quality, simplicity and cost.

[BTBAM]

Hmm. That kind of stinks. That means it would be foot shuffling ALL of the time the looper is wanted. What I like about the DL4 is that it's sitting there, always ready to loop. You don't have to do anything special. Is that something that is specifically going to be for the M13, or would there be hope of having a "Looper/FX" mode, where you have a 4 button looper, and 3 dedicated stomp switches. (What I imagined the M9 would be in the first place, in looper mode). I'm REALLY into the M9 (I started this thread!), but knowing I would need tap dance shoes seems a little less exciting.

 

 

While you may say it looks lacking, think of this. The dl4 is only ready to loop when in loop mode, and it gives you the ability to add delay. Then you have the double time half time reverse all in one. The m9 has reverse, doubletime halftime separately, plus it can undo. Not only that, but you can take the control over one effect into the loopers display, so if that is a delay, you don't have any tapdancing' just turn the effect off when not needed by running 100 percent dry. No tap dancing, and still more looping controls.

[gjhardwick]

yep, the looper still functions when in effects mode and vice/versa.

also, switching into/out of looper mode is very quick - possibly a pain in certain situations but not too much of a problem for me...

[BTBAM]

it's possible you could add a midi controller and control the effects that way? Keep looper in loop mode and control the effects without leaving it?

[greatwhiteclark]

Hey Rich,

Thanks for spending so much time providing info and taking suggestions to the other departments @ Line 6

My #1 request is for the M9 version 2 to have an FX Loop. I know the thing just came out but, I tell ya' no FX Loop killed it for me.

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE. FX Loop next time.:poke:

[BTBAM]

Hey Rich, Thanks for spending so much time providing info and taking suggestions to the other departments @ Line 6 My #1 request is for the M9 version 2 to have an FX Loop. I know the thing just came out but, I tell ya' no FX Loop killed it for me. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE. FX Loop next time.:poke:

wouldn't it be cool if the 2 expression inputs were wired to control 2 expressions or be used as a effects loop?

[ben_allison]

 

it's possible you could add a midi controller and control the effects that way? Keep looper in loop mode and control the effects without leaving it?

 

 

You can totally use a controller. So, set the M9 for fx, then have a MIDI for stop/play/record functionality.

[drasp]

wouldn't it be cool if the 2 expression inputs were wired to control 2 expressions or be used as a effects loop?

 

 

YES - this would be super-double-ultra sweet.

 

Also - thanks NetStar for suggesting that YouTube shootout. Not my kind of playing, and I can hear, especially on the Rat & Fuzz Face, some detail thats missing in the models (harmonics, etc.)

 

Still, why more folks don't talk about the DM4 is a mystery to me!

 

[YOUTUBE]eCi48KHyiek[/YOUTUBE]

[Boltino]

Still, why more folks don't talk about the DM4 is a mystery to me!

Agreed. I bought an M13 fully expecting to keep my dirt pedals. My entire board is now an M13.

[ben_allison]

DRASP!

 

What are the chances of you making a MIDI "looper controller" for the M9?

 

Five buttons that mimic:

 

Rec/Overdub

Play/Stop

Play Once

Undo/Redo

Half speed

 

Each button just needs to send the corresponding MIDI signal. It can be in a slim case, take up minimal space, :blah:.

 

Caman!

[drasp]

I'm 100% clueless re: Midi stuff, but I LOVE that idea. Whats involved/how complex a circuit is needed to make a basic 5-button MIDI interface like this?

DRASP! What are the chances of you making a MIDI "looper controller" for the M9? Five buttons that mimic: Rec/Overdub Play/Stop Play Once Undo/Redo Half speed Each button just needs to send the corresponding MIDI signal. It can be in a slim case, take up minimal space, :blah: . Caman!

[ben_allison]

I'm 100% clueless re: Midi stuff, but I LOVE that idea. Whats involved/how complex a circuit is needed to make a basic 5-button MIDI interface like this?

 

:evil:

 

This page looks like it has good DIY info:

 

http://www.audiomulch.com/midipic/

 

And this looks like a cool video that seems TOTALLY on point, at least as far as getting started is concerned:

 

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Another one:

 

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I think the whole thing would only require a basic microcontroller.

 

Adding LED's to indicate if a function was active would make things more complicated, but not that much I don't think.

 

I know next to nothing about MIDI, but from what I can tell, the basics of sending a message based on a button press is pretty simple.

[ben_allison]

Actually, I think "Tape" might have some experience with MIDI stuff.

 

*Paging Dr Tape. Dr Tape to the M9 Thread.*

[jhamnett]

 

 

Wayyyyy too much compression for me to hear much clarity on anything played on that clip.

 

I'm pretty interested in this M9, and have been lurking the hell out of this thread the past week. Thanks for the discussion, guys... I can't wait to try one out on my own!

[czarny]

Still, why more folks don't talk about the DM4 is a mystery to me!

 

 

It's simple. The main reason is because, like with a lot of Line 6 products, it can take a little while to dial in a sound you like. So many people want to just plug and play and immediately have the sound they are looking for. The impatient ones automatically just say Line 6 stuff is crap, when it is actually is quite good.

[[Animals2]]

question about knob tweakability... I would be using this with my Rhodes so I have access to the knobs with my hands. I have a DL4 and like being able to tweak knobs while playing. Are the knobs on the M9 tweakable, or are they more set it and forget it?

Thanks,
Mac

[ben_allison]

Oh, I almost forgot!

 

Robo, since you've been naysaying all over this thread, I've been meaning to ask: what multi do you use?

[Crxsh]

Digitech GNX3

[ben_allison]

True story?

[circusinthesky]

wouldn't it be cool if the 2 expression inputs were wired to control 2 expressions or be used as a effects loop?

 

 

Here is where that ability to set FX groups to left or right output would be nice. It would allow you to run yer dirty left output and your mod stuff right.

[Crxsh]

 

True story?

 

 

True story. In a TB loop, to boot.

[Crxsh]

 

question about knob tweakability... I would be using this with my Rhodes so I have access to the knobs with my hands. I have a DL4 and like being able to tweak knobs while playing. Are the knobs on the M9 tweakable, or are they more set it and forget it? Thanks, Mac

 

 

This is probably going to sound like a cop out answer, but it's as tweakable or as set-and-forget as you want it to be. I'm not a big "on the fly" tweaker, so I don't use it that way. That said, I see no reason why you wouldn't/couldn't be able to do that.

 

Now, if you've got a lot going on, remember that you can only tweak one thing at a time.... so, a potential drawback there if you like to have a bunch of stuff running.

 

If you're just looking to tweak a delay though, you should be more than fine.

[BTBAM]

question about knob tweakability... I would be using this with my Rhodes so I have access to the knobs with my hands. I have a DL4 and like being able to tweak knobs while playing. Are the knobs on the M9 tweakable, or are they more set it and forget it? Thanks, Mac

 

 

They are tweakable if you update to the bay update.reason being are the knobs jump to wherever they are set when you twist now, instead of being closer to where the preset is. Could really mess your sound up on the fly without updating.

 

 

Ben, as far as the question about roBo's multi, keep in mind he said he uses it as an add on to his normal pedals, and a lot of people here seem to be trying to replace everything for the m9, and that just might not work.