Members Pilotwings Posted November 4, 2008 Members Share Posted November 4, 2008 I just talked to God and he told me he voted for Obama and that Obama is gonna win. Do you mean allah??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Swami Digital Posted November 4, 2008 Members Share Posted November 4, 2008 Well, in general, mine too - though he's a bit of a "philisophical mechanic" and I find myself leaning more towards the metaphysics of Spinoza these days. You should check out Schrodinger's philosophical books then. German philosophy unified with Vedic metaphysics. I wish he had spent more time fleshing out his philosophy... but then I guess you can't fault him for seminal contributions to quantum physics. -D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members setAI Posted November 4, 2008 Members Share Posted November 4, 2008 His argument is that the bible doesn't say something that it actually says, or that it says it but it's not relevant. no- I am saying that is says one thing in some places and contradicts that in others- often in the same book! especially in the Epistles which alternately talk about universal salvation in one breath and in the next condemn the Roman's men/women/children to the Pit of Abaddon whether they repent or not- roman sins are not to be forgiven even under the New Covenant [and who could blame the early christians?] so the ONLY factor that matters is HOW and WHAT parts of the bible mankind has promoted in history- and the ideals of alms giving and brotherhood of all men and clean-slate redemption in the new Covenant don't even appear outside of Gnostic cults in any meaningful way until after Luther- most christians in history would call your interpretation of those selective passages you call New Covenant antichrist heresy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ChristianRock Posted November 4, 2008 Members Share Posted November 4, 2008 no- I am saying that is says one thing in some places and contradicts that in others- often in the same book! especially in the Epistles which alternately talk about universal salvation in one breath and in the next condemn the Roman's men/women/children to the Pit of Abaddon so the ONLY factor that matters is HOW and WHAT parts of the bible mankind has promoted in history- and the ideals of alms giving and brotherhood of all men and clean-slate redemption in the new Covenant don't even appear outside of Gnostic cults in any meaningful way until after Luther- most christians in history would call the New Covenant antichrist heresy! Sorry, you are just completely wrong, especially that last sentence. But whatever I say won't be considered anyway, so I won't bother. You go read the letter to the Hebrews, which has always been accepted by the church and never been considered heretical, and then you draw your own conclusions. I mean, even the catholic theology has always considered the new covenant to be valid throughout the centuries, they just added stuff to it (works and means of grace such as the 7 sacraments, prayers to the saints, purgatory, etc). Rejection of the new covenant was never a problem with the catholic church, and it certainly wasn't something that Luther had to point out. That the new covenant was faith-only and not faith+works though, that was Luther's main point. Also, read about the Church Fathers of the 1st, 2nd and 3rd century like Ignatius, Irenaeus, Tertullian, Jerome, St Augustine and so many others, and you'll see the New Covenant throughout their writings. You are just so wrong and so far out I'm not even gonna argue anymore. You refuse to accept that we christians read the bible and believe it, apparently - hence you disconsidering all it says about new covenant, and trying to convince me it's irrelevant I suspect that's a constant thing with you, though. You're one of those guys that I'm afraid I'm gonna hear about in the news someday, and not for good reasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members droolmaster0 Posted November 4, 2008 Members Share Posted November 4, 2008 .... You're one of those guys that I'm afraid I'm gonna hear about in the news someday, and not for good reasons. You know, I just have to say that I think that this is totally uncalled for. I see this over and over again with you - you claim to have this personal relationship with god, yet you are one of the meanest people on this forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members setAI Posted November 4, 2008 Members Share Posted November 4, 2008 You should check out Schrodinger's philosophical books then. German philosophy unified with Vedic metaphysics. I wish he had spent more time fleshing out his philosophy... but then I guess you can't fault him for seminal contributions to quantum physics. -D I say the reason why Schr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members raffor Posted November 4, 2008 Members Share Posted November 4, 2008 Do you mean allah??? First he was in bed with Michael Pfleger, a catholic priest and now he is muslim. You guys have to stick to one story, otherwise it doesn't sound very convincing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Swami Digital Posted November 4, 2008 Members Share Posted November 4, 2008 I say the reason why Schr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members raffor Posted November 4, 2008 Members Share Posted November 4, 2008 You know, I just have to say that I think that this is totally uncalled for. I see this over and over again with you - you claim to have this personal relationship with god, yet you are one of the meanest people on this forum. Sizzle is the same. When the arguments run out the accusations start. I guess that goes hand in hand with his hypocritical lifestyle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ChristianRock Posted November 4, 2008 Members Share Posted November 4, 2008 You know, I just have to say that I think that this is totally uncalled for. I see this over and over again with you - you claim to have this personal relationship with god, yet you are one of the meanest people on this forum. I see it more like a warning... the guy seems to be living in his own little world... Like I've said before, I have peace with God, but I don't claim to be better than anyone or to have ceased from making mistakes. My family and friends say I'm much less mean than I used to be. Whatever that means... If it was offensive, I apologize and take that back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ElectricPuppy Posted November 4, 2008 Members Share Posted November 4, 2008 Hm, obviously I called it a bit too early before. So, NOW can it be nasty name calling time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members setAI Posted November 4, 2008 Members Share Posted November 4, 2008 You're one of those guys that I'm afraid I'm gonna hear about in the news someday, and not for good reasons. yeah- one of these days I am going to get my picture in the paper when my Xenosaga Cosplay rips and my ass falls out in public- I'm a blogosphere geek- not a dangerous heretic- my crime is READING TOO MUCH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Swami Digital Posted November 4, 2008 Members Share Posted November 4, 2008 Hm, obviously I called it a bit too early before. So, NOW can it be nasty name calling time? It kind of doesn't work when someone apologizes, so no! :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members augerinn Posted November 4, 2008 Members Share Posted November 4, 2008 Hm, obviously I called it a bit too early before. So, NOW can it be nasty name calling time? EP has COOTIES !!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ElectricPuppy Posted November 4, 2008 Members Share Posted November 4, 2008 yeah- one of these days I am going to get my picture in the paper when my Xenosaga Cosplay rips and my ass falls out in public- The visuals... they burn...! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ChristianRock Posted November 4, 2008 Members Share Posted November 4, 2008 I guess we'll have to wait just a bit longer for teh name-calling... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Metrosonus Posted November 4, 2008 Members Share Posted November 4, 2008 yeah- one of these days I am going to get my picture in the paper when my Xenosaga Cosplay rips and my ass falls out in public- you too!? *the sound of doves crying* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Swami Digital Posted November 4, 2008 Members Share Posted November 4, 2008 I see it more like a warning... the guy seems to be living in his own little world... Like I've said before, I have peace with God, but I don't claim to be better than anyone or to have ceased from making mistakes. My family and friends say I'm much less mean than I used to be. Whatever that means... If it was offensive, I apologize and take that back. FWIW, I disagree with you, but I don't think you're mean. Perhaps a bit fervent at times, though. Certainly many people are on both sides of the spectrum. -D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Swami Digital Posted November 4, 2008 Members Share Posted November 4, 2008 The visuals... they burn...! ... trying not to form mental image... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members setAI Posted November 4, 2008 Members Share Posted November 4, 2008 ... trying not to form mental image... by the way- I am a 6'3" 350 lb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members droolmaster0 Posted November 4, 2008 Members Share Posted November 4, 2008 by the way- I am a 6'3" 350 lb I dwarf you, punk. I stand 7'9", and I weigh 644 pounds dripping wet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ElectricPuppy Posted November 4, 2008 Members Share Posted November 4, 2008 yeah- one of these days I am going to get my picture in the paper when my Xenosaga Cosplay rips and my ass falls out in public- by the way- I am a 6'3" 350 lb I was gonna try to make light of this and say, "proof there is no god", but now I dunno... is that stepping over the line? Oh wait... {censored}. (I keed. You know I keed, right? right? :poke: Besides, it fits in the whole godless-setAI thing here... oh never mind) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members setAI Posted November 4, 2008 Members Share Posted November 4, 2008 I was gonna try to make light of this and say, "proof there is no god", but now I dunno... is that stepping over the line? Oh wait... {censored}. (I keed. You know I keed, right? right? :poke: Besides, it fits in the whole godless-setAI thing here... oh never mind) and I have moobs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Members ChristianRock Posted November 4, 2008 Members Share Posted November 4, 2008 Actually, I think this has been the best political thread we've had. Lots of stuff was talked about, nobody had to shut down the thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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