Members Expressway to yr Skull Posted August 5, 2012 Members Share Posted August 5, 2012 lol @ "if you want to cut highs, just use a pedal!"if that's the sound he's looking for, wouldnt it make much more sense to just integrate the cable unto his setup rather than buy a whole new pedal and waste board space? I'd rather have the control that an EQ would give. The cable might cut too much from his highs or too little etc etc. With an EQ pedal he could switch it in and out depending on which guitar he's using/what sound he wants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members PKTrono Posted August 5, 2012 Members Share Posted August 5, 2012 What's the point in them? If you want cut treble and boost mids just use an eq pedal and if you don't just use a normal cable. They look daft too. they don't tangle. i do a lot of recording at the computer and it's nice not tangling/running over the cable all the time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members crohny Posted August 5, 2012 Members Share Posted August 5, 2012 I thought this thread was about helping him find a cable, not give your assumptions and aesthetic dislikes of coil cables. Loobs, Lava coily is rad. I really dig mine. I didn't notice a difference in tone, but I was also using a 20 foot cable prior to that as my guitar to board cable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members hotmess Posted August 5, 2012 Members Share Posted August 5, 2012 I shape my cables in a pentagram. Don't know if it helps tone; I just want Jimmy Page's demons to come and give me money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members echodeluxe Posted August 5, 2012 Members Share Posted August 5, 2012 forget the cable. just use your amps eq. also, theres no way a guitar cable boosts mids. and if it did, it would be to such a tiny degree that your ears would not notice it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members KoskineN Posted August 5, 2012 Members Share Posted August 5, 2012 Lava Cable "Retro Coil" The Lava Retro Coil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Terminus Posted August 5, 2012 Members Share Posted August 5, 2012 A coily cable doesn't really do anything a normal cable don't. They just add cable length, but if you're already running long cables (or pick a pretty short coily one) it won't be that much of a difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NITROHOLIC Posted August 5, 2012 Members Share Posted August 5, 2012 lets not get into a hiss about how much treble i want to cut gentlemen. FWIW i run treble on my amps extremly low use flatwound strings on bass pure nickles on guitar and run very high output pups. treble is FTL in my books. i like rumble. and i use the tone knobs on my pedlols for all my treble needs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members crohny Posted August 5, 2012 Members Share Posted August 5, 2012 A coily cable doesn't really do anything a normal cable don't. They just add cable length, but if you're already running long cables (or pick a pretty short coily one) it won't be that much of a difference. Coil cable is far harder to get tangled in. I have literally tripped on straight cables and lucky for me saved myself by bracing myself on a wall and not {censored}ing myself and my guitar up. The coil cable has benefits beyond looking retro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members hotmess Posted August 5, 2012 Members Share Posted August 5, 2012 Try soaking the cables in butter. Won't help your tone, but they'll smell delicious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members spoonie g Posted August 5, 2012 Members Share Posted August 5, 2012 Coil cable is far harder to get tangled in. I have literally tripped on straight cables and lucky for me saved myself by bracing myself on a wall and not {censored}ing myself and my guitar up. The coil cable has benefits beyond looking retro. I've definitely almost done that a number of times. Wish I'd had a coily in my touring days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Members christianatl Posted August 6, 2012 Members Share Posted August 6, 2012 Oh hai. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members evets618 Posted August 6, 2012 Members Share Posted August 6, 2012 No cable is "boosting" anything, unless said cable has a built-in amp of some sort.This is the Myth Of The Tube Screamer Mid Hump. It doesn't exist.Just like the little green pedal, coily cables CUT highs (and probably bass as well), which, to the human ear, sounds EXACTLY like boosting the mids. Passive circuits cannot boost, they can only cut.Hope this helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members caeman Posted August 6, 2012 Members Share Posted August 6, 2012 Um...it is a passive cable. It cannot ADD mids. Maybe it seems like when the highs are being cut, making the mids more obvious. And you aren't noticing the lows because you aren't playing bass. Coily cables are like having an extra, fixed, tone knob. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members lefort_1 Posted August 6, 2012 Members Share Posted August 6, 2012 Interesting. I read several people hitting the "cables don't boost anything" button, yet I can't find ANYONE who claimed they did.Masses are asses today. Passive circuit alone, and ANYTIME you have a capacitive/inductive.resistive load placed on a signal, then you will have loss...be it high/mid/low. This is a massive "No Duh!". But I still believe that there is far less difference between straight and coily cables than anyone here is letting on. Again, that "coil" is essentially not visible to the rest of the transmission line due to the ground-shield. I'd love to get my hands on some data from a reputable cable manufacturer. (ie not Lava, George L, etc.... but the actual maker of the cable/wire/jacket). They'd have the proper data for analysis. Anything you'd get from Lava, etc would be seriously suspect and full of marketing hype, imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members penelope twee Posted August 6, 2012 Members Share Posted August 6, 2012 I use a Bullet cable and I don't notice any significant difference in tone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RUExp? Posted August 6, 2012 Members Share Posted August 6, 2012 Interesting.I read several people hitting the "cables don't boost anything" button, yet I can't find ANYONE who claimed they did.Masses are asses today. The OP said his adds a lot of mids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members lefort_1 Posted August 6, 2012 Members Share Posted August 6, 2012 The OP said his adds a lot of mids. Well yeah, but that's Loobs...I ignore him at every opportunity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Turd Furgison Posted August 6, 2012 Members Share Posted August 6, 2012 just an fyi everyone: coily cables cannot add mids, they cut highs, which to the human ear, sounds like boosting the mids. hope this helps. also the so called "enhanced safety" of coily cables is a figment of your imaginations propagated by the coily cable lobby. one time at band practice i tripped and fell onto a coily cable causing it to become lodged in my urethra, that would have never happened had it been a regular cable. consider yourselves duly warned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members hotmess Posted August 6, 2012 Members Share Posted August 6, 2012 Just so you all know, a passive cable can't add mids. It can only roll off treble, which only sounds like it adds mids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members PKTrono Posted August 6, 2012 Members Share Posted August 6, 2012 to be clear, passive cables cannot cut highs, they can only add mids Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Terminus Posted August 6, 2012 Members Share Posted August 6, 2012 Coil cable is far harder to get tangled in. I have literally tripped on straight cables and lucky for me saved myself by bracing myself on a wall and not {censored}ing myself and my guitar up. The coil cable has benefits beyond looking retro. Yes, I meant tone wise. It obviously has practical benefits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cirrus Posted August 6, 2012 Members Share Posted August 6, 2012 Just to pick up on a point I think has been overlooked in this thread, A coily cable cannot add mids, it can only cut treble which given the impression of adding mids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members echodeluxe Posted August 6, 2012 Members Share Posted August 6, 2012 mids Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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