Members Inertiatic_SKS Posted August 5, 2012 Members Posted August 5, 2012 I'm seriously considering getting rid of my JCM900 MKIII for an AC30 combo, but I'm kinda iffy on its ability to get the high gain tones I like, only because all I ever hear about is how awesome the RAT is in front of the AC30 So AC30 guys, what are some distortions/OD's you guys like to use with your amp to get nasty, over the top distortion in the vein of bands like Converge/Spitfire/The Minor Times/etc etc.
Members mhuxtable Posted August 5, 2012 Members Posted August 5, 2012 I personally don't like the high gainz on an AC30.... I'd much rather have a Marshall combo or something. The AC50, however....
Members Inertiatic_SKS Posted August 5, 2012 Author Members Posted August 5, 2012 I personally don't like the high gainz on an AC30....I'd much rather have a Marshall combo or something.The AC50, however.... I've had a bit of a love affair with the AC30 ever since I heard the epic toanz Thrice got on the Fire EP from the Alchemy Indexes. I'm looking for something kind of in that ballpark, but with a bit more grind and less fuzziness. I think the closest tone out there to what I'm trying to achieve is the guitar tone on Converge's You Fail Me.
Members ambient Posted August 5, 2012 Members Posted August 5, 2012 iirc, this was all a rat into an AC30 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dq6qXAu7E1U
Members ToonHollow Posted August 5, 2012 Members Posted August 5, 2012 I've had a bit of a love affair with the AC30 ever since I heard the epic toanz Thrice got on the Fire EP from the Alchemy Indexes. I'm looking for something kind of in that ballpark, but with a bit more grind and less fuzziness. I think the closest tone out there to what I'm trying to achieve is the guitar tone on Converge's You Fail Me.While Thrice's later albums had an AC30 all over (Beggars), the Fire EP was actually recorded mostly if not entirely with Marshall JCM800's and sometimes a Fuzz Factory for added craziness. You can cope a similar tone with a Turbo RAT or modded RAT into an AC30, or maybe try a treble booster like the Catalinbread Naga Viper that allows you to emphasize the low end and not just treble frequencies.Or try a Naga Viper into a modded RAT.
Members Cirrus Posted August 5, 2012 Members Posted August 5, 2012 AC30 will do high gain, but it will always be middy and forward sounding so you won't ever get massive sounding, smooth walls of distortion from it. The biggest it sounds for me is when you crank it up, then use a reasonably bright and tight pedal to push it a bit more - the louder it is, the more girth it has. If you keep it clean and use pedals for all the gain, there's a tendency to brightness, fizz and a lack of low end unless you've got a flexible EQ.
Members Matt Gnarly Posted August 5, 2012 Members Posted August 5, 2012 The Morgan 30/800 would probably be right up your alley, it's a combination of the "classic voicing of Vox AC30 with the grind of the JCM800", I haven't had a chance to try one but have heard great things so far.
Members spoonie g Posted August 5, 2012 Members Posted August 5, 2012 Nay. It was a Rat -> JCM 900 An ac is going to sound different from your typical fender platformed sound (which = a bit of a mid scoop). The ac-30 is about the opposite of that. You can get some awesome sounds, but they aren't typical.
Members crohny Posted August 5, 2012 Members Posted August 5, 2012 The Morgan 30/800 would probably be right up your alley, it's a combination of the "classic voicing of Vox AC30 with the grind of the JCM800", I haven't had a chance to try one but have heard great things so far. This
Members Jakkeh Posted August 5, 2012 Members Posted August 5, 2012 Wasn't a lot of the Radiohead stuff AC30?
Members spoonie g Posted August 5, 2012 Members Posted August 5, 2012 Wasn't a lot of the Radiohead stuff AC30? Thom used dirt pedals (rat and something im forgetting at the moment) into his and johnny used a fender solid state amp for dirt and ed used a mesa (among other amps).
Members SnorkelMonkey Posted August 5, 2012 Members Posted August 5, 2012 AC30 will do high gain, but it will always be middy and forward sounding so you won't ever get massive sounding That's what bass players are for
Members SnorkelMonkey Posted August 5, 2012 Members Posted August 5, 2012 AC30 will do high gain, but it will always be middy and forward sounding so you won't ever get massive sounding That's what bass players are for
Members Cirrus Posted August 5, 2012 Members Posted August 5, 2012 That's what bass players are forExactly. I sometimes get frustrated trying to make the amp sound huge when I'm at the practice room on my own messing around, but I've never had trouble in a decent mix when the bass and kick are filling out the bottom end. It sits just right then.Oh, one thing I've just thought of - you can make AC30 distortion much tighter by putting it through a closed back cab. I preferred a 2x12 to a 4x12 for that.At the risk of inviting terrible ridicule and derision, here's a relatively high gain tone from my ac30cc combo with a crunch box.
Members Reaganomics! Posted August 6, 2012 Members Posted August 6, 2012 I don't understand what's going on in that video. I see a peavey valveking stack and a line 6 stack
Members ambient Posted August 6, 2012 Members Posted August 6, 2012 Nay. It was a Rat -> JCM 900 Woops, my bad.
Members TomCTC Posted August 6, 2012 Members Posted August 6, 2012 I don't understand what's going on in that video. I see a peavey valveking stack and a line 6 stack Cirrus' amp is beside the Line 6. It's a killer tone, too.
Members Cirrus Posted August 6, 2012 Members Posted August 6, 2012 Cirrus' amp is beside the Line 6. It's a killer tone, too. Thanks Tom!
Members thom Posted August 6, 2012 Members Posted August 6, 2012 The Morgan 30/800 would probably be right up your alley, it's a combination of the "classic voicing of Vox AC30 with the grind of the JCM800", I haven't had a chance to try one but have heard great things so far. F*ck. Why did I never heard of that amp? That's what I get for turning my back on the maps forum. That's exactly what I always imagined my dream amp would be. I'm good on amps right now though, plus it's way way way over budget...
Members Trick Fall Posted August 6, 2012 Members Posted August 6, 2012 Sounds good, the bass players pants were a bit distracting though.
Members Cirrus Posted August 6, 2012 Members Posted August 6, 2012 Sounds good, the bass players pants were a bit distracting though. We call them trousers here. And yeah, this is the only time he ever wore them. We'll just make sure he never forgets it!
Members Vince Posted August 6, 2012 Members Posted August 6, 2012 Daft question, but to get these sort of sounds (in particular the Refused one), would you run into the normal or top boost channels?
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