Members c2dzmm Posted April 9, 2007 Members Share Posted April 9, 2007 I am curious as to how many watts of PA power it would take to sufficiently play an outdoor gig. Say 6 monitors for the band and 2 3-15in. speakers to push the sound to the audience? The gig location would be out in the open with maybe a curtain or banner behind the band. Let Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Nerine Posted April 9, 2007 Members Share Posted April 9, 2007 I would say somewhere in the region of 60,000 watts if you wanna do it properly. The more the better, especially outdoors.As a rule of thumb you need about 3 times the power outdoors. So a club that could hold about the above amount would be looking at about 20,000 w, which is about right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members The Real MC Posted April 10, 2007 Members Share Posted April 10, 2007 It's not just the power. It's the cabinets, you need 3x the cabinets to project sound outdoors. Projecting sound in a closed space like a club or hall is much easier because you've got reflective walls and ceiling. None of that outdoors... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JimAnsell Posted April 10, 2007 Members Share Posted April 10, 2007 100 watts per person Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members OverDriven Posted April 10, 2007 Members Share Posted April 10, 2007 I am curious as to how many watts of PA power it would take to sufficiently play an outdoor gig. Say 6 monitors for the band and 2 3-15in. speakers to push the sound to the audience? The gig location would be out in the open with maybe a curtain or banner behind the band. Let Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SiCkboy78 Posted April 10, 2007 Members Share Posted April 10, 2007 A marshall stack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Nerine Posted April 10, 2007 Members Share Posted April 10, 2007 A marshall stack. lolzorz !!1111!! you win some internet...!111! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Nerine Posted April 10, 2007 Members Share Posted April 10, 2007 It's not just the power. It's the cabinets, you need 3x the cabinets to project sound outdoors. Projecting sound in a closed space like a club or hall is much easier because you've got reflective walls and ceiling. None of that outdoors... +1 If you could somehow get a massive marquee or something then you could cut the power down quite a bit Outdoor PA is a bit of a nightmare to get right. In most cases, bigger and louder is better when it comes to outdoors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members AMSnell Posted April 10, 2007 Members Share Posted April 10, 2007 One HUNDRED MILLION watts... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Nerine Posted April 10, 2007 Members Share Posted April 10, 2007 Eighty Six the whole PA concept altogether. Why don't you simply send an audio/video feed out to everyones cell phones in the audience. You also win some internet....I'm going to have to start being less generous. but there is a flaw however. If this concept took off, can you imagine hearing a 5150 through a phone speaker??? ZOMG!1! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members duncan Posted April 10, 2007 Members Share Posted April 10, 2007 it's more about the style of enclosures you use. you need long throw bass bins, as well as short (in height) tops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Skr4ped Posted April 10, 2007 Members Share Posted April 10, 2007 Just buy 1000 walkie talkies. EDIT: Make that 1001, you need one on stage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Steveanders86 Posted April 10, 2007 Members Share Posted April 10, 2007 rent the pa. we did that for a show once and it costs a few couple grand but we had equivilent to second stage ozzfest. it was outdoors for about 600 people and it was just loud enough. 25' hanging speakers 8 HUGE 6' subs 4 huge 6' monitors on each side of the stage and for the drummer and 8 or so front monitors. it was way worth the money. OH! and it came with the stage and sound guys and the techs to put it up. it took them all day to put it up and we got to help. it was pretty bad ass if you ask me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members code_blue Posted April 10, 2007 Members Share Posted April 10, 2007 Steal snoop dogg's PA from the up in smoke tour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tlbonehead Posted April 11, 2007 Members Share Posted April 11, 2007 +1 If you could somehow get a massive marquee or something then you could cut the power down quite a bit Outdoor PA is a bit of a nightmare to get right. In most cases, bigger and louder is better when it comes to outdoors. I love outdoor shows. It is a clean pallet that you are painting your sound on. It does take some juice. For small outdoor shows, I use 6-8 of these www.sonicspeaker.com/18e.htm and of these (CE-34)http://www.hkel.com/speaker.html with about 9000 watts of power for FOH in a 2 to 1 ratio subs/top cabs. It is enough for a good lively sound but not quite concert level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members starsnuffer Posted April 11, 2007 Members Share Posted April 11, 2007 Just get a few of these. I hear they use Line6's model of a 5150 anyway LRAD 500 -W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members HKSblade1 Posted April 11, 2007 Members Share Posted April 11, 2007 depends on your stage- if the stage is at least 3 ft high. Isolate the speakers from the stage. use a carpet or something underneath. Then add risers for the MAIN speakers. what we did was to box the sound in. we were at a baseball field at a HS and needed to contain the sound. We built these drop frames from 2x4's and paint drop cloths and boxed in the stage (sides and back). It was much cheaper than renting a huge PA and we played for 2500+ with only 2000 watts avail in the PA. 2-1000W amps. one for subs and one for mains. biamped mono. I would rather have rented a tent or something but it was last minute. for our purpose, the sound was able to carry well about 200-300 ft from center. farther back it died off which was fine since that was picnic area and people could hear each other talk. if you box the stage in, get a means of supporting the rig. a little wind can become a hazard. we secured our rig with bungie cords. wind was light but anything heavier could have been bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tlbonehead Posted April 12, 2007 Members Share Posted April 12, 2007 When the heck do you have time to do anything else besides posting 30+ a day? I work about 55-60 hours a week and my weekends are open. I play pretty much every Fri and Sat night. Plenty of extra time in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members c2dzmm Posted April 13, 2007 Author Members Share Posted April 13, 2007 anybody else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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